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Jessie Sams: Okay, welcome to link time chat episode 30 all right, I looked it up beforehand it's very.

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Jessie Sams: Good are you moving yeah i'm moving, but my coffee Cup is here you're really just you need to angle it more if you know angle okay okay.

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Jessie Sams: messing me up over here all right sure so today's topic is one that has been suggested twice now on the discord and also in chat you know just in terms of.

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Jessie Sams: Like on streaming chats and that's hey so i've got a con laying what do I do with it so it's about using it.

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Jessie Sams: and, specifically, you know past episodes have touched on connections between con links and D amp D, specifically, but of course you can.

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Jessie Sams: Think about that connection with really any role playing kind of game.

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Jessie Sams: Where you get to develop a world and things like that, and so there's been a strong connection between like naming languages and just getting like place and people names incorporated into the D amp D world.

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Jessie Sams: But you could of course go further, there we go by doing a more developed calm laying.

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Jessie Sams: For D amp D and doing things like including puzzles or riddles, for you know people to figure out during the campaign.

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Jessie Sams: that they have to like figure out how to translate or whatever, and if you're interested in that, by the way, there's a whole comm link every episode on this where David George and joey Windsor.

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Jessie Sams: Talk about ways that you can incorporate con links into D amp D, but our listeners were like what else, what else can I do with a con like.

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Jessie Sams: If you know that it doesn't interest you or if you've already done it and you're like Well now, I want to see what else I can do with my con line.

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Jessie Sams: And so that's what this is about excellent awesome first know that, like you, don't have to do anything else so it's not like this episode is telling you like you've made a con like you must do something with it.

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Jessie Sams: Instead, a lot of con lingers just you know, create con links for the pure joy of it and.

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Jessie Sams: Just enjoy it just have fun with the development and and it can just be yours i'm really surprised that this is the first one you list, and you didn't list puppet show first.

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Jessie Sams: That that will come later, but we haven't hit my numbered list yet.

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Jessie Sams: Okay, this is a disclaimer saying like we're not telling you, you must do things Okay, this is, instead, saying like hey know that if you have no interest in doing something other than coddling.

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Jessie Sams: You don't have to write you can just keep developing calmly beyond the mandatory puppet show well, I mean that will come late, you have to do at least one puppet show with your coddling but I mean.

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Jessie Sams: I should mention that you know, one of the reasons that I kept on conlon you know, over the years, is just because I enjoy doing it so much.

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Jessie Sams: And so really it's like you know you get to not the end of a project, but a place where you're not feeling anymore with that project, I mean my solution was always just make a new one, you kind of jumped ahead to two part of my list that is cool.

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Jessie Sams: But yeah I know David has a really good point and will reiterate that point later Okay, because it is so important, I think that.

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Jessie Sams: Some people feel like you have to be able to do specific things in your calling before you can call it, you know finished with that project.

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Jessie Sams: But it's more about you than anything else you're the you're the one who decides what you're inspired by are interested in, and of course you can always go back and like pick up an older project and.

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Jessie Sams: dusted off and do things from there, and so yeah so disclaimer you don't have to do anything else you can pull a David and just start a new language.

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Jessie Sams: But if you want to this episode's for you.

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Jessie Sams: Another disclaimer disclaimer to don't expect other people to be excited about learning your con lying David and I have talked about this before in link time chat and and other places.

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Jessie Sams: It doesn't often happen that other people want to actually use it so definitely don't recommend your end goal being like my friends and I are going to have conversations in my language.

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Jessie Sams: Instead, whatever goal, you do have make it about you so make it something you're excited about make it something that you're willing to put all this time and energy into for yourself, rather than hoping other people will pick it up.

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Jessie Sams: yeah, in fact, if you are in a in one of these were situations where you have a friend or friends who wants to.

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Jessie Sams: You know, speak a language you've created, I am really of the opinion that you have to do it very, very differently, and that has to be your top goal, which is what is going to interest.

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Jessie Sams: My friends what's going to what's going to hold their interest what's going to be something that they would actually be willing to learn in us and so, like, for example, I would say you're probably throwing naturalism out the window it doesn't make any sense.

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Jessie Sams: Not only that.

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Jessie Sams: it's it's almost like you're creating an ox Lang except rather than creating an ox slang that's tailored to you know some gigantic speaking community.

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Jessie Sams: it's just a few speakers and even the vocabulary, especially the beginning, should be tailored towards things that you discuss and are are interested in I.

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Jessie Sams: Probably shouldn't be how do I order at a restaurant or how do I get a taxi how do I.

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Jessie Sams: How do I, you know get tickets for the Opera seems to be like these are like the first three things you learn and teach yourself right.

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Jessie Sams: Because of course what they're expecting is they're teaching you a language that you're going to use when you're going to a country and it's like that's not what.

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Jessie Sams: Probably not what you and your friends are going to be doing and how are you going to be using this language.

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Jessie Sams: And even more than that it's not just about what you and your friends like to discuss it's Why would you use the language.

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Jessie Sams: And chances are it so other people don't understand so, then you have to further think about what what vocabulary, would we need to be able to have this conversation without eavesdroppers.

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Jessie Sams: And that's like a kind of interesting thing to think about, but like that's really the reason you would use it unless you have like a.

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Jessie Sams: game night where you're like oh my God we're just going to like chatted out in the language and have some fun with it, but yeah so i'm gonna throw this and I know this is totally off topic, but.

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Jessie Sams: Because I was just thinking about like Oh, you know what about if your friends your friends do online gaming and you want to talk to each other that other people on you know.

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Jessie Sams: You know I guess if some people use discord server audio jack you don't want them understanding.

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Jessie Sams: Something else that I think a lot of boxing's never took into consideration is acoustics because, like, for example, we just went to the esperanza museum and in Vienna and Esperanto just had 130 fifth anniversary so lots of people been talking about how great it is and it's like really.

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Jessie Sams: In terms of design it's it's quite terrible.

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Jessie Sams: And in terms of acoustics because, like you have a lot of importance attached to these endings and then you have very minute differences.

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Jessie Sams: In the endings in non stress position, and so, for example, the big thing about Esperanto is that all nouns and and oh all adjectives and in awe.

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Jessie Sams: And then you can paralyze them by adding a J at the end, which is makes a yes sound and then you can make them accusative by adding an end at the end and so like.

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Jessie Sams: You have like you know I don't know teletubbies oh his word for TV and so you have you know televisa overs is televisa way versus televisa sewing versus televisa own and all of this is happening.

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Jessie Sams: In kota position in on unstressed syllable that's ridiculous like doesn't make any sense that you would do that.

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Jessie Sams: The stretch the district should have shifted that could have been one thing that could have rescued or you could have just done something completely different, and you know, created a good language yeah.

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Jessie Sams: Look it's it pays to pay attention, so this is the kind of thing, where you know we were talking about this in discord with somebody else's coddling.

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Jessie Sams: Where there was a lot of stuff that was happening, where continent was changing encoded position before another syllable in unstressed syllable and I said that would be kind of like if the plural for September, where September.

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Jessie Sams: it's like, obviously, yes, we can make this distinction, but it's such a an acoustically non salient position that it doesn't make sense for a key morphological change to be associated with a change in that position anyway really random side note there was a study done.

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Jessie Sams: And it was for like a cycle linguistic study to look at the perception of language and, specifically, they played it was like a portion from Alice in Wonderland.

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Jessie Sams: But they had changed out certain sounds and different syllables just to see like.

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Jessie Sams: How often can people actually pick up on speech errors if they like, how far, could you stretch the change in sound before people picked up on it like.

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Jessie Sams: If you just changed voicing or if you change voicing and manner voicing and play you know so they.

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Jessie Sams: They really messed with it to see and they told people going into it like count the number of speech errors that you here, so people were like.

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Jessie Sams: Trying to listen for the errors and the number of errors they missed and unstressed syllable like you could get.

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Jessie Sams: away with a lie, and you may be surprised at how many of those just like you just perceive it as what it needs to be because you heard the important part, those stressed bits so anyway yeah that is a good point.

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Jessie Sams: We haven't even gotten to like the main thing we're still got disclaimer and all that is to say whatever using your coddling looks like for you make it about you make it about what you want don't don't expect other people to join in and try to learn it with you.

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Jessie Sams: Okay, so, then the first thing is share it, but what I mean by this is like share it on field linguists share your grammar inspire other people.

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Jessie Sams: Share whatever works, you have there you could create a website, a lot of complainers have websites like David does to specifically share languages and their features.

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Jessie Sams: You can also just do it on social media so there's a lot of instagram and Twitter I don't know about Facebook and there is a common Community there, so you know you could potentially share features there.

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Jessie Sams: But you could definitely share features of your language, if this is something that excites you, you could think about doing like you know, like a word a day like something like the Luxembourg challenges they even have full year challenges where it's like create a new word every day.

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Jessie Sams: To you know expand your vocabulary there's even like there's one month is a February that's like the grammar month but it's like grammar weary.

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Jessie Sams: Like there's there's another one that's totally about grammar but I can't remember.

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Jessie Sams: The month or what it is, but it is a way to like not only share your language and its features, but it's also a way to expand it because you're trying to make new things as you share it.

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Jessie Sams: You could you know put up translations of like quotes or something on your Twitter feed or an instagram post idioms common sayings, and so on.

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Jessie Sams: it's really important now if you're on social media and you want to actually share it with people remember to use those hashtags so you know coddling is an important hashtag to have a lot of people follow those.

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Jessie Sams: But also, you could like make a hashtag for your language name for people who you know, want to follow, along with your development.

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Jessie Sams: You can create a little friend group and see it so when I say share it right after saying don't expect other people to be excited about it, the people who are going to be excited about it, our fellow complainers.

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Jessie Sams: Looking at it, not for learning it but for being inspired by it and wanting to see what you've done.

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Jessie Sams: Also.

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Jessie Sams: If you're if you're going to share something while it's most informative to like share your entire grammar.

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Jessie Sams: that's really something that I think is better suited for the language you know put up the grammar of your entire con line and then.

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Jessie Sams: If if people are interested, it will be there and they will go to it and and and look into it.

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Jessie Sams: When you're sharing just on social media as targeted as best and it'll be different, depending on whether you're doing like.

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Jessie Sams: Post on our con links or Facebook or Twitter or instagram but what you want to do is find some specific feature.

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Jessie Sams: of your language that is really cool, whether it be a nominal paradigm, or something that happens with agreement in certain sentences or a translation and then focus on that put it up there, and be prepared to provide scaffolding, so that people can understand why it's need.

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Jessie Sams: And then you know do that with bunch of different things so just one one day another one next week, and so on, like that.

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Jessie Sams: And that's, of course, to if you're just sharing like grammatical information or or the graphic information something like that or phonological information that you want to do something like that.

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Jessie Sams: Then the projects are always just they define themselves, like the word a day, where those really cool too.

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Jessie Sams: And I mean, and also on instagram they're definitely cobbling or so just you know go outside and take a picture of something and then they label it in their coddling and you know that can.

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Jessie Sams: be a lot of fun and it can be neat just to see other words, people are creating so getting into a Community and actually sharing it.

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Jessie Sams: really helps you develop it further, because you're going to need more things eventually to be able to share and so that's my number one piece of advice you want to use it share it have some fun with it kind of create your own.

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Jessie Sams: way that you enjoy sharing it with other people now.

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Jessie Sams: Number two you're going to see I I do a little rainbow effect here it's really cool which colors puppet show.

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Jessie Sams: it's in the invisible color for those who are just listening, the first one was in red, yes, this one is in is in a dark pink.

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Jessie Sams: I wouldn't call that dark pink I would call that magenta well whatever you call it it's it's in a different color and this one, I say number two is do a deep dive which i'm going to explain what I mean by that.

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Jessie Sams: So you can really dive into your languages grammatical features and you can even design like little mini language learning kind of.

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Jessie Sams: modules I would call them for your language, not even to share it with other people, so they learn it, but just so that way you're forced to like.

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Jessie Sams: What does this verb look like in all the different tenses and moods that I have set out to create.

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Jessie Sams: And then I have this route, with oh I forgot that this consonant ended here, how is that going to interact with all of these other things going on.

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Jessie Sams: And so, by actually creating these little little short things you're actually going to be using your language like how do I, how would I order tickets to an opera in my coddling.

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Jessie Sams: And you know writing out little dialogues, this is just again a way to expand it and you can have as much fun like I this speaks to my soul, because I am a teacher at heart, also a teacher for most of my job.

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Jessie Sams: But I am a teacher at heart, and so just creating these little lessons and formatting it and having fun.

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Jessie Sams: that's fun for me and so like this would be my idea again even, not even to share it with other people to be like learn it it's really more of a way for me to organize my thoughts and say what else do I need to consider for this language.

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Jessie Sams: To be able to develop it in a kind of systematic way.

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Jessie Sams: Right, I did this once for for comic cali.

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Jessie Sams: comic always the language that you had before.

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Jessie Sams: to thrive rocky it was the one that I really loved it was really proud of and really wanted to share for two reasons, one I thought.

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Jessie Sams: fun logically it really did something that I enjoyed.

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Jessie Sams: And the grammar I felt was complete enough that I feel very comfortable with it, it was very easy for me to use and then, when I created the writing system, I really loved it but.

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Jessie Sams: But yeah I created a series of lessons that were on my website that you could just go from one to the other thing I ended up finishing, six of them.

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Jessie Sams: That taught you the language and really it was just fun.

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Jessie Sams: It was.

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Jessie Sams: It was written humorously and something that I enjoyed at the time I don't know how well it holds up today but.

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Jessie Sams: But yeah That was a lot of fun and and it did make me think about what's the best way to like introduce these are.

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Jessie Sams: just some of the quirky parts of comic con we like the the subject switching subject tracking and the the different types of possession and so that was a lot of fun.

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Jessie Sams: And if you enjoy the little lessons that you've created so much you can put it on a website or unfeeling.

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Jessie Sams: And that's a really good point, by the way, we've never had that feeling, but the really cool, it would be really cool like a little.

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Jessie Sams: A little book that you don't even have to do finish the whole thing you could do like one lesson, at a time that would be really neat and an important.

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Jessie Sams: side note about Fiat language is you can share works in progress, because you can you know you can send hey I you know, had this version of my grammar now i've changed this or I only had one less than last time I shared here's another lesson.

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Jessie Sams: And those files are going to be updated so people can follow, along with your progress right there on the post for free happening with now I think you know, initially, I was inspired because.

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Jessie Sams: The KLA the cling on language institute when I looked at it for the first time I saw that they had lessons there and they were PDF lessons and, at the time, I think you could print them out and mail them to somebody to.

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Jessie Sams: To correct, but you don't need to do that right right.

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Jessie Sams: So long ago alright so that's another option to again further develop something you could do with it.

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Jessie Sams: My suggestion for number three is to think about how you would see your world through your coddling and so david's looking at this year but don't worry, I have a whole scenario.

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Jessie Sams: No it's not the content it's the color the color it's kind of Orange ish we went from red to magenta to poker you know what it wasn't orange and I need you to just follow along okay okay.

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Jessie Sams: So it can be fun to challenge yourself to label the things in your you know daily space with your online and so like you can even go so far as a little post, it notes, you know.

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Jessie Sams: As you learn another language, one of the suggestions is put post, it notes around you so you remember the word for wall door floor you know coffee whatever.

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Jessie Sams: But this is super interesting and challenging I think for a con lingers, especially those who have created a world that is not like ours.

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Jessie Sams: And so maybe your world wouldn't have different words for Chair and couch and you know things like that, so how would they see them how would they labeled them.

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Jessie Sams: Also interesting is you know, like some of our more modern technology, how would they even conceptualize that if they don't have if it's like meant to be a medieval society or something like that.

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Jessie Sams: just trying to like push your coddling into these boundaries and one of the reasons I specifically mentioned this.

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Jessie Sams: Is that so many con lingers really enjoy doing translations of existing texts like the Babel text, and you know the Declaration of Human Rights and so on, so that way they can share it with other con listeners, who have also translated it.

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Jessie Sams: But that means that those words are existing in you know, English and and other languages that doesn't necessarily mean you're calling has those specific words, and so it doing this would really force you to start thinking about.

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Jessie Sams: How would my speakers view these things, and how can I develop words and constructions in ways.

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Jessie Sams: That reflect my intention for the language, rather than just creating a word for X i'm trying to translate something, something that I saw in the economy and documentary that just impressed me so much was was Jim and Johnson, who had.

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Jessie Sams: labeled the Spice jars and his kitchen and his con line.

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Jessie Sams: And I thought that was just so cool it's something that I think is within the reach of like anybody, I mean if if that's What if that's what you cared about you know but it's like.

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Jessie Sams: there's a finite number of spice chairs right it's very obvious how labeling them could work and it's something that you can do in your con line and when it's done.

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Jessie Sams: it's there forever as long as you keep them which which has got to be really satisfying and special just every time you go to make something.

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Jessie Sams: And certainly helps reinforce the words in terms of language learning, I think it was just really cool and of course me being.

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Jessie Sams: kitchen person i'm already thinking my gosh we could totally do that i've got labels already I can just expand them but also i'm in office junkie person and so like markers pens all my little different organization things could have a different label on it and be so much money.

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Jessie Sams: But yeah so like that's another thing you can do with it.

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Jessie Sams: Number four.

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Jessie Sams: It was the last month gotcha okay so let's say you are thinking about seeing your world through your comm link.

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Jessie Sams: And you could take it one step further and you could actually Journal in your language and so doing something daily would obviously reinforce it, this is really something for the people who want to learn their language at a more intimate level.

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Jessie Sams: But you don't have to be a journal or to do this, like you, don't have to sit down and write entire paragraphs.

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Jessie Sams: That helps to personify them a little bit and even has more fun with it so like there's on and much ado about nothing there's this character played by Michael keaton and the man who.

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Jessie Sams: That was how we got nimrod that's one of my favorite examples so from bugs bunny right he calls elmer fed nimrod.

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Jessie Sams: Which is certain, because of bugs bunny entered our language, meaning like you know, a stupid person or more on.

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Jessie Sams: And it was especially influential because kids picked it up oh yeah and they carried it with them from there, but anyway yeah that's a really good example alright, so I forgot what time we started but i'm like we're only on number four we're good Okay, we have more to get through here.

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Jessie Sams: So those can be great inspirations for what you might do with yours and, of course, once you create it you could share it on for you.

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Jessie Sams: You could go all Tolkien and right so like if you're a fiction writer, you could actually you know write it and use pieces of your language in it and it's not even it doesn't even need to be for publication, it could again be for personal enjoyment.

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Jessie Sams: What would be fiction or mythological or lore in your own world in your online so like you could write little stories like you had said the children's books.

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Jessie Sams: Alright, so that was number six number seven you can make art, so this is beyond thinking about you know fiction stories, etc, you could actually make.

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Jessie Sams: So, for some of you, this could sound like super exciting, so you know you could go full on artsy and like paint a mural right that, like depicts.

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Jessie Sams: A story from from your speakers world you could also you know, do something I know some con lingers actually create recipes in there, calmly to represent what you know would be eaten for special occasions by their speakers so like that is another way to make our food is art.

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Jessie Sams: Just do things like word art and like right out some of your favorite words are saying in your colleagues orthotic or fee to put up in your space around you to make it all kundalini and happy.

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Jessie Sams: So, like art doesn't have to be something that's really big and intimidating with huge projects just being able to look up on the wall and like I used to have in my office.

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Jessie Sams: back when I was on campus as a professor in my office, I had a sign saying, welcome to my office in a con Lang and every time I looked up at it and made me happy and it was just printed out like it wasn't even like.

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Jessie Sams: You wouldn't want to run it through the dishwasher but, like you could like i've hand washed things with that sharpie writing baked on to it so look up advice for that, because online things will tell you better how to do that.

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Jessie Sams: But that would be a way to create something like what David just showed you that you could have around the House.

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Jessie Sams: for something that you don't have to pay all that extra money you know to be able to get well, I mean that could get on an entirely separate subject where there are a lot of things that you can pay for it to get them easily.

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Jessie Sams: Like we have the ability to customize everything picture frames, I mean cell phone cases, all of this stuff is stuff that you could customize with your coddling and the other thing that I wanted to show this is something that that Jesse made for me she's made me two rings.

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Jessie Sams: That have inscriptions from to the languages we've made know you can kind of see it yeah obviously as a podcast you can't see it, this one says low, you may wear yeah and then this one from the upcoming vampire Academy, please, I need your help, remembering how to pronounce that one.

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Jessie Sams: You can make a game which, that is, like all of laying time was inspired by David wanting to make a game that utilized you know words in these con lines.

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Jessie Sams: And so, like you could definitely do that you could be like David and do something that's you know bigger that's going to take a lot of time energy to develop and get your rules for.

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Jessie Sams: You know, new things for it using your con line when the jump to mind, for me, was what settlers of Bhutan because there's not a lot of I mean if you're the rules are one thing, but, aside from the rules, the actual stuff that you see there's not a lot of texts there so it's like you could.

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Jessie Sams: and produce those little print cards for everybody that has the same graphics but it just has your your con link text on it, which could be fun.

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Jessie Sams: say you wanted to do content, but in your own world maybe you don't have sheep, maybe you have different things you want to replace it with a different animal you could do that.

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Jessie Sams: blocks because it's like you're trading out supplies so same thing, like you could have your own words, for that or decide what would be important, and you know, like what would be worth more to to them, and you could.

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Jessie Sams: So maybe if you did want to do something a little bit more ambitious but you're not particularly artistic is that you could hook up with somebody else who is.

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Jessie Sams: And either pay them or maybe barter like you know they are not a coddling or but need one for something you know you can trade art for online or something like that.

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Jessie Sams: But it's it's a lot easier to do now than it was in, say, the 90s, you were just stuck with your own skills.

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Jessie Sams: And also, if this interests you, you can also think about what games with your speakers play and actually develop a game that's relevant to your world.

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Jessie Sams: and write out the directions and your con length, so you know, like you can definitely make it much more intense.

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Jessie Sams: Or maybe you don't actually develop the game you just write out the rules of what they would do.

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Jessie Sams: So you could have fun just thinking about what games would be in the world if you don't want to actually design your own game for for use in our world.

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Jessie Sams: So those are all different things, and actually as we're talking I forgot to mention as whenever I was writing about fiction.

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Jessie Sams: or whenever I was talking about the the fiction idea, you could also do you know poetry in your language you could write songs in your language if you're a musician you could there because, like junkie Hydra has all those cool songs.

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Jessie Sams: they're just so many ways that you could expand creatively, depending on what you are interested in and what you want to do for that so those that was number eight.

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Jessie Sams: number nine is to develop a family so like you can create a language family, the color Oh, a language family Okay, I was like it wasn't the color this time, which is a purple.

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Jessie Sams: And then you could develop it into daughter languages, and you know go from there and say what happens, you know if these speakers branch out.

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Jessie Sams: And so, moving away from you know what can you do in more creative ways and and by creative ways I mean like creating art and things like that, and moving back into what can I do with it specifically thinking linguistically you can make family and it's cool.

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Jessie Sams: And, of course, like if you're if you're going to go all for it, you could actually have like daughter languages versus say Okay, so these two daughter languages, they start intermingling and maybe there's a Creole now like you could like.

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Jessie Sams: Do all sorts of different things, and this would be also further developing the world and at some point, you are going to have this outline of this whole world for.

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Jessie Sams: quite an undertaking, so it is creative I use that wrong, I feel really bad for saying i'm moving away from creative things, this is still totally creative I just meant away from the art type things and into creating yeah yeah.

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Jessie Sams: using words wrong that's what happens when that word creative can be applied to so many different things.

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Jessie Sams: All right number 10 was start a new con language is what David already talked about you don't have to keep working on the same con laying.

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Jessie Sams: last one, and with this one and other thing you can think about is how would words be borrowed from one you know daughter language to another or from one completely different comm link to another.

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Jessie Sams: This one, and the one before are ones that we have at your mark to talk more about in future episodes of link time chat to talk about you know how do you further evolve more languages related to yours, or how do you think about borrowing between con lines, and so this is.

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Jessie Sams: Which is which feels different from creating vocabulary and with enough con length you'll always have the opportunity to create new vocabulary.

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Jessie Sams: Sometimes you just get the feeling that you want to do that and so it's not just about the grammar For me, there are also times when I, I want to try out.

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Jessie Sams: and part of that is because of just what David said, where it's you know there's a feature that excites me and I want to try it out.

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Jessie Sams: But yeah you only get that initial opportunity to build the foundation from you know the sounds you choose and the way that they're going to work together to that grammar portion and so it's very exciting to me to be able to.

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Jessie Sams: it's very important whatever you do, you need to have fun with it because really the most important thing is that you're enjoying what you do when you can Lang and so, if.

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Jessie Sams: take a step back and think about like why, why is it no longer exciting, for me, is it because I want to do something different in terms of you know, making a new language is it because I want to be able to flex my creative muscles.

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Jessie Sams: Remember that you can do things like like I mean I I doodle right like so I make those little instagram drawings.

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Jessie Sams: And sometimes I don't even have a word in the language yet to be able to associate with it, but it's just exciting sometimes to be able to just sit down and be like oh here's what the speaker would be doing them their daily walk or whatever.

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Jessie Sams: And that's still related to it in a way that you're thinking about your world your speakers in your language.

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Jessie Sams: And so maybe you just need to take a break from the like really strict to linguistic side and expand it in other ways.

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Jessie Sams: And then come back to it because, eventually, you will need more words and things to be able to actually.

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Jessie Sams: Talk about them, the nice thing about a con link is it's kind of like a pokemon when they go in the bookie ball, they just sit there are still here for you, when you go back to it.

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Jessie Sams: The only thing that might change is you and your understanding of the con length so it's nice to write in some.

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Jessie Sams: I want to say instructions, but to figure out how to get to get back to it, you know how to how to get back your your understanding of it.

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Jessie Sams: Like for me it just takes a little time looking at the entries taking a look at the grammar and looking at a previous translation and it's like all right, I get this again.

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Jessie Sams: If I forget like something like rocky i'm not going to forget but, but like it's just so that you're in the same place to be able to create new vocabulary and to be able to do translations that it's still there.

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Jessie Sams: In your head and you're able to access it so if you can figure out for yourself what helps you get back into the headspace of his coddling be sure you put it somewhere.

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Jessie Sams: So that you have to get back to it it's a really good point I also know that some.

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Jessie Sams: You know now and there's no reason for distress that's just gross of the language growth of you as a translator calling or whatever.

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Jessie Sams: But also remember that, like in the world, some of us are going to like you had mentioned style is very different, and so you can always just you know it's it's square with its change.

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Jessie Sams: And so there's no no need to go back and throw everything out if you're not happy with the last translation do a new one, and it can be fun to compare.

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Jessie Sams: You could even do a cute a fun little comparison kind of article and put it on feeling what it'd be like here's where I was a year ago, and now here's here's where I am and.

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Jessie Sams: here's the features and how they've changed our here's how my understanding has changed, that would be really cool yeah so many things you can share on feeling.

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Jessie Sams: And I know, and I mean you all, if you've listened to all the podcasts and then you know that I struggle with sharing work, and so, if you are a person who is like.

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Jessie Sams: yeah they keep talking about feeling when and sharing things but that's really terrifying I completely understand and you don't have to share it that way.

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Jessie Sams: really just having it for yourself can be an amazing thing to have just right there so.

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Jessie Sams: If you like the idea do a translation comparison and you can just keep it right there and enjoy you know, looking back on it, so if it terrifies you completely understand, but please also know that.

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Jessie Sams: In the realm of con langer's I think most of us are in the same area where it's like we just get excited to see what gets shared and it's not it's not like we're sharing it to.

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Jessie Sams: My tell you everything you did wrong it's your language you get to decide what how it works anyway that's my little plug there um one other thing that I meant to discuss with you, before we started recording.

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Jessie Sams: So here's where the puppet show happens as I was writing out notes with like, what can you do with con lanes so much of it comes back to the sharing aspect, and so I started thinking about our patrons and our discord and how we do have areas to share on links.

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Jessie Sams: But I want to create a category of channels that is more specific to sharing really specific details about your calling things like a question of the week, like.

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Jessie Sams: What is one example of a simulation in your calling or what is one example of a derivation turning nouns and verbs in your con like.

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Jessie Sams: Something like that, so that way people can just see some ideas for really different aspects of con linking in each other's work.

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Jessie Sams: And just to share not to again it's not like the calling feature channel where it's like get you know critique or feedback or whatever it's really more of a space to share.

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Jessie Sams: And I also want to create a channel, this would all be future, by the way, because right now i'm a little overwhelmed with a current project that I have to finish by the end of the month.

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Jessie Sams: By August really but anyway once I finished that what I want to do is put some love into creating these spaces to share within discord within our Community where you may feel more comfortable sharing.

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Jessie Sams: that's cool idea to another idea is a channel for a digital card exchange, because when I really liked there used to be a.

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Jessie Sams: snail mail COM link card exchange for different holidays and but we could totally do that digitally and like do a little like what holidays, with your world have and if it's a holiday for them.

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Jessie Sams: share a card yeah man this digital space amanda babcock froze started that creator murky.

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Jessie Sams: goes really cool it was really cool and this way everybody would get to see you know if you want, if you have something to share you could share it so anyway.

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Jessie Sams: Look, for that in the future, when I have the mental space to actually organize it in a way that will be a little bit less haphazard than my current notes.

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Jessie Sams: But I do want to create spaces more spaces to really guide you through sharing if you know if that's something that scares you, because if it if it's not something that scares you then send in everything to figure out lingo create a website do that.

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Jessie Sams: But I also want to create a a good spot for all of us to feel a little bit safer sounds good okay well good because I just announced it on the chat.

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Jessie Sams: pod cast without talking to you first and I meant to tell you that this was an idea I had but then we started recording and I was like both David will go along, I like spontaneity good good alright, so that that was my 10 cents.

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Jessie Sams: penny for each idea oh I on what you could do with your language you've developed it alright, so now we're just going to do our puppet show so get your character ready.

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