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Jessie Sams: hello, and welcome to link time Chad episode 17.

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Jessie Sams: David says hi to.

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David Peterson: Oh, what was I supposed to follow up with a high.

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Jessie Sams: I don't know more than a laugh.

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David Peterson: Here we go okay so welcome to the link time chat episode 17 where the rules are made up in the points don't matter.

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Jessie Sams: Whose line is it anyway Nice.

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Jessie Sams: That shows not still on is it.

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David Peterson: I think it is.

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Jessie Sams: Really who's the host now because it's not drew Carey.

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David Peterson: mentor know like they brought everybody back it came back it was like two years ago, so I think it might still be going, but you never know coven may have.

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David Peterson: Put the kibosh on it, but yeah I came back with the original cast.

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Jessie Sams: Wayne Brady everyone.

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David Peterson: yeah.

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Jessie Sams: Ryan styles.

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Jessie Sams: yep colon.

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Jessie Sams: yep cute what's his last name.

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David Peterson: I thought that was his last name.

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Jessie Sams: Okay, so for people listening, I did a hand gesture, obviously, indicating that i'm trying to think of what his last name is doesn't matter signed, is it anyway, was the show that kept me laughing in the late 90s.

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David Peterson: Oh yeah, by the way, speaking of which, I think that we discussed this before, but let's ask it again, did you watch the British one.

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Jessie Sams: No.

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Jessie Sams: I did, but I had to stop and think about it it's like I don't think I did i'm pretty sure i've never even seen an episode of the British.

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David Peterson: The British one was very, very good, but also the the host played much more of a straight man and so at the time, I thought that they actually did keep track of points and I.

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David Peterson: Really weird yeah weird to me how.

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David Peterson: flippant to carry was about the points because I was like I thought this was the point like there was actually a winner at the end, and like they kept track.

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Jessie Sams: Oh, my gosh Okay, so it says it is still going i'm.

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Jessie Sams: Calling mockery there you go.

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David Peterson: that's right.

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Jessie Sams: wow.

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Jessie Sams: I had no idea I need to I need to find it so I can see.

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Jessie Sams: No, no, we are wrong.

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Jessie Sams: 1998 to 2007 it was hosted by drew Carey we're right there, but the revival of the show is hosted by you should Tyler.

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David Peterson: And that is.

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Jessie Sams: On the CW.

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David Peterson: Really yeah oh man.

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David Peterson: I, I want to make sure that I have the name right is that the same person who voices Latina on Archer.

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Jessie Sams: I don't know about that.

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David Peterson: Name it'll say.

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Jessie Sams: ready.

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Jessie Sams: Thank you, David for teaching me how to use the Internet today.

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David Peterson: You got it.

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Jessie Sams: You got to.

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David Peterson: turn the thing on, you have to turn the computer on, and then it comes up on the screen.

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Jessie Sams: So the role I knew her from was actually she was in a few episodes of friends.

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Jessie Sams: Oh, my gosh she plays Mother Nature and the Santa Claus films.

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David Peterson: never saw those.

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Jessie Sams: um yes lana kane and Archer.

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David Peterson: Here we go okay so yeah she's of course amazing as one on Archer.

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David Peterson: Very funny wow now i'm super curious to see it, I mean not like I wouldn't have been beforehand, because, of course, you know I loved it before and the the bulk of it is actually the cast, not the host but now i'm i'm super interested dang.

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Jessie Sams: And now I wonder if the points matter in.

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Jessie Sams: Her version.

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David Peterson: You know mm hmm.

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Jessie Sams: yeah they didn't matter when drew Carey was doing it.

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David Peterson: I mean, because it's like they kind of you know it is similar show like Are you familiar with around the Horn espn okay so that's the one that's hosted by Tony reality and what it is it's for sports.

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David Peterson: Not broadcasters, what do you call the people that write in newspapers.

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David Peterson: You know the old timey journalists sports journalists, thank you for different sports journalists Come on, and there you know, on the screen virtually any throws out a topic, and they each get a chance to discuss it and he gives them points based on.

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David Peterson: how well they make their point.

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David Peterson: And there actually is around where first one person is eliminated and they don't get to speak for the rest of the episode until the end when they come back.

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David Peterson: And then there's another round where another person is eliminated, and then they go head to head and the person who wins at the very end, basically gets 30 seconds of screen time to say whatever they want.

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Jessie Sams: Interesting now of course it's called around the Horn is important, with it being for guests, because around the Horn is a baseball term where you throw the ball around the Horn and it's all for basis.

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David Peterson: Oh, I thought it was just a generic term, you know that originated from going around the Cape you know of South Africa, when you were going from the east coast to the gold country in California.

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Jessie Sams: i'm sure some people could use it that way.

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Jessie Sams: But slow baseball lingo for you.

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Jessie Sams: He throw the ball around the Horn.

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David Peterson: yeah hey, what do you call it when when there's like two guys right and then one of them gets the ball and one of them is caught in between basis and they run back and forth tossing the ball to.

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David Peterson: discuss this out.

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Jessie Sams: Did we discuss this in the podcast or was that something that we discussed in a live stream.

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David Peterson: I mean I I don't know because I just don't have a term for that I don't even know what you'd call that.

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David Peterson: Certainly, it must have been the live stream.

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vegetables.

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Jessie Sams: must have been in the license I swear that's where the whole pickle discussion got started.

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Jessie Sams: It was okay.

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David Peterson: Oh.

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David Peterson: Anyway, is it called a pickle is that what it's called.

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David Peterson: In a pickle I I didn't know because you know me i'm not i'm not a baseball person I certainly didn't grow up like keeping score for baseball games son of the major.

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David Peterson: Not every ball player.

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Jessie Sams: Not everybody says lucky yes.

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Jessie Sams: Okay Okay, but we have some like serious cobbling stuff to do today.

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Jessie Sams: And I.

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Jessie Sams: Hope I don't even remember what time we started and so i'm going to be requiring you to keep track of how longer recording.

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David Peterson: Oh yeah don't worry about that I, I know I know what we're doing but.

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David Peterson: There is actually one more non business element that we should discuss I mean again this is going to be an audio podcast for for a bit until we put it up on video but.

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David Peterson: Right, I did want to draw attention to the fact that I mean I am now doing what the bet required of me, it was supposed to be for the next podcast episode, but it took.

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Jessie Sams: It took.

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David Peterson: But for those that are on video oh.

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David Peterson: There we go.

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David Peterson: I am wearing a pink shirt, and that is pinkie pie on there was very excited probably getting ready for a party or throwing a party because that's what pinkie pie does.

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Jessie Sams: best way to live life.

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David Peterson: hang on a SEC hang on a SEC.

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David Peterson: say anything Jesse.

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Jessie Sams: anything.

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David Peterson: Something has occurred, something has occurred.

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Jessie Sams: Has your sound gone wonky.

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David Peterson: It did okay.

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David Peterson: My air pods just decided to take a little snooze.

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Jessie Sams: As one May and the middle of the afternoon.

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David Peterson: And they're back.

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David Peterson: Good so that's that I guess anyway so yeah we're back to normal.

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Jessie Sams: so next time that happens, you need to like wave me down or something so that way, I can say all the really fun things why you can't hear.

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David Peterson: i'm got it, you can tell everybody what you really think of me.

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Jessie Sams: Right, and you know that's obviously going to be much easier for me if you can't hear what i'm saying.

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David Peterson: Because I want to immediately fire you.

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Jessie Sams: it'll it'll take until the podcast airs.

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David Peterson: But that'll be fun, because at least you'll know when your last day is.

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Jessie Sams: Right right first of the month is always a good day to go.

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Jessie Sams: Alright, so i'm going to share the screen for.

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Jessie Sams: For working purposes, and also for the video which will eventually.

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Jessie Sams: Be on YouTube because, at some point we're going to finish with the possum language and so at some point we will be moving on.

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Jessie Sams: And so I feel like we're we're nearing that point ish.

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Jessie Sams: yeah but every time I say that we have eight more things to do so yeah we'll see we'll see.

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Jessie Sams: Okay, so as of last time, so we are we're actually going to use today as the final day of we think.

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Jessie Sams: We think it's the final day of this language sketch.

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Jessie Sams: At the very least it's going to be the last one, for now, unless I guess, a lot of requests are made for something specific that people want to see.

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Jessie Sams: But, in general, this is our last planned episode for this language sketch, and so essentially we're just going to be wrapping up, and I say wrapping up talking about tone, because we did actually hit tone last time it took us to the third episode of the language sketch to hit tone.

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Jessie Sams: But we did, and we incorporated some tone, we only made it through three of the roots, and so I thought it may be good to start out with applying tone.

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Jessie Sams: To some more roots to not only remind ourselves and our listeners how tone was being applied, but also to get these modern forms flushed out and to then move the discussion on to register tone and how it can be used in grammatical ways so that's where we're headed today.

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Jessie Sams: and David you have any comments before we jump in.

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David Peterson: A I have a concern because I thought to make things a little simpler, I would just type out I would finish out these romanization notes.

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David Peterson: And you know we were being so clever with the oh with the two dots over it, and then having the two lines over it, but then, how do we put an acute accent over it, oh my God, I really, really want chucky cheese pizza right now.

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Jessie Sams: So as you're thinking about that Why would we.

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Jessie Sams: create an acute accent.

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David Peterson: it's past we've been needed for falling tone.

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David Peterson: However, I suppose it is, it is an open question if we will ever get falling tone on the value.

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Jessie Sams: Right, but the acute accent isn't the acute accent, the one that goes up and you've already done that.

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David Peterson: Sir complex accent.

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Jessie Sams: There we go Thank you.

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David Peterson: What I said and you.

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Jessie Sams: Sir conflicts in acute in my dialect do get perceived as the same word.

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Jessie Sams: Because it's obviously.

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Jessie Sams: dialectical differences are all about perception and not production.

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David Peterson: You must need midwesterners in your dialectical differences.

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Jessie Sams: But only in perception.

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Jessie Sams: So that is a really good question i'm guessing there is no double Sir complex.

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Jessie Sams: situation.

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David Peterson: And it wouldn't even make any sense now like, it is an interesting question if we'd ever get the EU with a falling tone, but assuming that we will let's just go ahead and use combined I don't I don't like it.

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David Peterson: i'm not a fan of it.

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David Peterson: But I will do it nonetheless so.

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David Peterson: Oh wow.

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Jessie Sams: There we go.

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Jessie Sams: yeah i'm glad that I think only you are in focus, while you're talking when the screen is being shared, which is a good thing, because I just poured water down.

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David Peterson: On bullies.

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David Peterson: And I missed it.

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Jessie Sams: you're like trying to wipe.

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David Peterson: As I was looking for combining diet critics that sounds honestly.

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David Peterson: Really on point for me.

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Jessie Sams: It sounds really on point for me to that, I would just spill water as i'm trying to take a drink because it's like in my adult life I have forgotten how to drink, out of a water bottle.

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David Peterson: yeah and in my adult life, I am the person who is like you know yeah like whoa that hot chick just totally squirted water all over herself and i'm like i'm trying to find combining diet critics in the unicode right now Okay, a little busy.

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Jessie Sams: how's it going for you.

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David Peterson: Well, I found one of them.

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David Peterson: it's not even centered properly over the character, I hate it.

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Jessie Sams: But it's.

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Jessie Sams: The same it's the same for the ash above it because I don't think the ashes fully centered as it, with the accent.

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David Peterson: Now i'm seeing that too.

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Jessie Sams: Oh sorry, did you never noticed that.

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David Peterson: No, I didn't notice.

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Jessie Sams: Oh you're welcome.

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David Peterson: mm hmm Okay, so that is the combining a huge accent, but I don't see the combining Sir complex accent, the one I just tried wasn't combining.

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Jessie Sams: So.

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Jessie Sams: In terms of combining.

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Jessie Sams: Are you looking at a unicode per unit, while that came out a little bit weird a unicode you know insert character kind of directory.

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Jessie Sams: To try to find what you're looking for okay.

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Jessie Sams: So this is by the way for people who are trying to decide on some romanization systems, one of the problems with doing diet critics is that.

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Jessie Sams: Some keyboards you're going to have to actually get really, really into actually developing your own keyboard to make it do what you want, without having to insert characters every time because.

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Jessie Sams: Like, for instance, the shortcut for the lout on a MAC keyboard works wonderfully if you have a bell typed after the little you know dead key combo for the low.

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Jessie Sams: But if you want it to be say over a Y or another letter, it does not work and so you'd have to figure out ways to work around that so that is something to keep in mind.

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Jessie Sams: If you're doing diet critics, especially if you're going to be doing any other special characters and, of course, our American keyboards believe that the.

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Jessie Sams: Is a special character, making it more difficult to insert exactly how you want to type and it's always always frustrating when you're trying to just type in your content and you have to go to the stupid unicode picker every time.

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David Peterson: I really liked how you said, let her.

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David Peterson: Like you to do that from now on.

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Jessie Sams: Because I said it with the tea.

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David Peterson: Yes, I did, yes, you did left her that was.

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Jessie Sams: Sometimes.

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Jessie Sams: Sometimes that's just how it comes out i'm like.

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David Peterson: it's like there should be.

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David Peterson: It feels like there should be like a combining a cute accent I a critic right.

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Jessie Sams: I mean I I guess.

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Jessie Sams: I don't know that the circle circle FLEX you said a cute again by the way.

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David Peterson: gosh darn it.

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David Peterson: i'm can't believe.

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David Peterson: And I wasn't going to call you out.

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Jessie Sams: I wasn't gonna call you out on it, but.

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Jessie Sams: Then I did yeah.

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Jessie Sams: And I was also looking through, I am not see.

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Jessie Sams: Anything are you are you sure this is the route, you want to take, and that you don't want to.

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David Peterson: Binding Sir complex oxen boom there it is.

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Jessie Sams: cool i'll just copy and paste from there, find nita.

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David Peterson: yeah really.

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David Peterson: But yeah with me and acute answer complex It reminds me of a movie that both of us have seen and have memorized for Monty Python and the Holy Grail and Arthur being very confused by the numbers, three and five she keeps mixing up.

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David Peterson: This time I was watching.

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Jessie Sams: I know, which is why I managed to drink like a normal person again i'm.

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David Peterson: good job on it, but, by the way, like.

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Jessie Sams: Three cakes you, you know.

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Jessie Sams: People should be more congratulatory yeah but.

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Jessie Sams: You have a straw that's really cheating.

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Jessie Sams: gotta sometimes it's good to play it fast and loose.

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Jessie Sams: um Okay, so we have already applied tone now obviously that one's going to change, are you going to change it, or do you want me to copy and paste it like I already have it highlighted.

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Jessie Sams: I have a feeling this just means you're going to replace it at the same time, I do so, then everything gets around um.

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Jessie Sams: Alright, so what we have done is we have changed the oh with a double blind you know the uhm not stretching up in the acute accent with a double line.

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Jessie Sams: We have changed that to the the the oh with a slash through it, with just a regular a Q accent on it and that's how we're going to Roma nice stuff form.

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Jessie Sams: Was that a good description, I was trying not to use, like any technical terms too much in case people don't know what these letters look like.

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David Peterson: The technical terms aren't really much different right, so the oh with a diagnosis is replaced with a slash with an acute accent, I mean.

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Jessie Sams: I now have to look that up hey you you walk us through how souk is going to get tone.

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David Peterson: You have somebody gets what that's a reference to.

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Jessie Sams: Around not on I was thinking.

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Jessie Sams: Because it's around that letter it's not quite in oh it's around.

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Jessie Sams: Oh, I really hope it's not me it's my screen.

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David Peterson: Oh that's good so, is it is it that means like literally round round us in a circle.

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Jessie Sams: No, I was gonna say oh round right so it's like a round to you, but it's not quite a you.

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Jessie Sams: Like I have no idea if that's right, I was actually.

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Jessie Sams: Exactly.

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David Peterson: There you go disappearing again yeah well at least you can hear me, but now i'm not going to hear what you had to say, as a result.

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Jessie Sams: Such an excellent so.

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David Peterson: Such a bummer okay.

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David Peterson: So see you.

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Jessie Sams: This one is interesting because it starts within you know, a consonant clusters, this is our first consonant cluster at the beginning, we have that S, oh no oh we're still writing an IPA I was like wait, how would.

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Jessie Sams: An IPA we have the sj combo, which is a CEO.

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David Peterson: it's going to become shoe and it's going to be high schoo.

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Jessie Sams: Why didn't we already do that if that's what it's going to become.

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David Peterson: I don't know but i'm looking at chap over here.

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David Peterson: Is we have chappie remember that movie I didn't see it did you see it.

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David Peterson: Well, I only ever saw the commercials for chappie, but I just I just immediately and aggressively water to make fun of it and so.

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Jessie Sams: side note.

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David Peterson: Did we.

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Jessie Sams: Do we did not way we have dip song simplification, where the I becomes the J and the you becomes a w and they occur, is the first Member of a depth on so that's how we got the J and for instance souk came from seek with it, the full I and tmp came, you know because it had the I ash.

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Jessie Sams: David is adding a rule and deciding how that's gonna work.

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Jessie Sams: So we're adding a palatable ization comma I guess rural because we do have prp becoming chappie but souk states UK and not shoot.

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Jessie Sams: Which is interesting, I don't even know i'm going to well david's typing that.

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Jessie Sams: Did we even have the ash, yes, we did we did say that we have that power little ash.

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Jessie Sams: interesting.

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Jessie Sams: And we also have the nda as a side note so i'm guessing that.

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Jessie Sams: Oh yes, any alveoli will become palatable or post lb other when they occur before a che.

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David Peterson: Except that it's not going to occur before Jay because then I guess the J disappears like so you'd write two rules it's just the sequence.

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Jessie Sams: Like the whole secret oh yeah yeah so the whole sequence.

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David Peterson: yeah, this is a really professional role, possibly the most professional i've ever written.

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David Peterson: And it's a and it's going to here on out be called the the big rule the pig rule politicization I guess.

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Jessie Sams: By the way, for people who can't see the screen he wrote evidently our feelers become pallet or post out feelers when they occur before J dot dot dot question mark.

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Jessie Sams: That is indeed.

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David Peterson: There we go.

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Jessie Sams: And he has inserted aka and then a pig emoji after the rule name, and so, that is, that is, it that's our pig rule.

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Jessie Sams: yeah cool, so we have.

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Jessie Sams: Well, I don't know why did you make the.

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Jessie Sams: Why did the K disappear.

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David Peterson: And it makes sense because pigs always make that you know sound.

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David Peterson: doesn't that sound like pigs on the farm.

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Jessie Sams: No.

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Jessie Sams: Also, the, should we not.

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David Peterson: Have it ending K just know.

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David Peterson: Like my God.

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Jessie Sams: Why did you hear me you're like okay.

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David Peterson: Because the.

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David Peterson: Because of this, that i'm highlighting on page 13.

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Jessie Sams: Good call David.

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Jessie Sams: I was just making sure David was paying attention to the rules reboot reboot I can't do w's and ours together last time.

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Jessie Sams: we're voiceless stop coders create a high tone trace and then disappear, so the K indeed would disappear.

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Jessie Sams: Now we have four completely different routes.

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Jessie Sams: Leaving high tones.

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Jessie Sams: This will be interesting let's see if we Oh, I think we're going to have a low tone here in one moment because lamb has a voice onset which is low tone and then we have a voice kota which is double low tone.

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David Peterson: And then essence plus one, and that leaves a.

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Jessie Sams: A.

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Jessie Sams: One for low tone.

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David Peterson: lamb.

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David Peterson: Nice shoe lamb.

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David Peterson: This could be a song shoot.

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Jessie Sams: You got to start at the beginning now because we have you know we've got say all five words and around.

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Jessie Sams: That wasn't our first set shoe the lamb.

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Jessie Sams: Anyway, though.

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Jessie Sams: That was not our first little chunk so we did have a low tone on the first syllable of on Z.

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David Peterson: And I did I said, if I know I did the onset of the ash what was that about.

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David Peterson: it's a river possum showing.

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Jessie Sams: Up know it Okay, so the next one is going to be like shoe right.

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Jessie Sams: Except we're going to end with sweat in high tone because it's got the S, which is plus high tone for the voiceless consonant onset it's got a voice oh stop kota which is high tone and it's one syllable so it has that stress so it's like the re.

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Jessie Sams: For swear.

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David Peterson: It.

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David Peterson: is a pretty cool sounding language, who wears we have no bed and see in shoe lamb swear.

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David Peterson: like it.

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Jessie Sams: Right well saying no.

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Jessie Sams: That is.

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Jessie Sams: going to come out with I believe a high than a.

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David Peterson: yeah I think so.

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David Peterson: And we're still going to start with Axa.

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Jessie Sams: Yes.

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David Peterson: Okay, all right.

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Jessie Sams: Right, so the opening I don't think we have any questions about, but the new the closing.

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Jessie Sams: is low tone because unstressed syllable have a plus one for a low tone.

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Jessie Sams: And then there's there's no kota or anything, it has that voice consonant on set that in.

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Jessie Sams: So that's a little town so.

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Jessie Sams: that's how that came about and I think from there, we can go ahead and just guess that, sadly, is going to turn out the exact same way, because it's the same pattern.

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David Peterson: Sadly.

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Jessie Sams: So it's always fun when you start to really figure out the patterns, so you can move more quickly, as you assign towns.

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David Peterson: US English, which.

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Jessie Sams: Are the modern.

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Jessie Sams: Are you really going to leave the session the modern form and not do sh okay yeah there we go.

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Jessie Sams: He had he had an edge there and I want everybody to know that.

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Jessie Sams: In the Roman nice for him, he had an edge until.

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David Peterson: Just like ladies.

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David Peterson: Right.

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David Peterson: You grew up on a farm you know, it was a little piggies.

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Jessie Sams: Just because I now live in what I am is probably almost kind of yeah considered a farm doesn't mean I grew up on a farm.

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David Peterson: I mean you grew up in a farm amongst all the animals.

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Jessie Sams: You had here just.

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Jessie Sams: was not part of charlotte's Web.

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Jessie Sams: That didn't happen um.

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David Peterson: So we.

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Jessie Sams: Just as a as a reminder for me, we were assigning stress to the penultimate syllable correct.

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David Peterson: yeah it feels like something I do so, probably.

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Jessie Sams: Because I asked because we're now on a three syllable route.

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Jessie Sams: And so we needed to figure out.

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Jessie Sams: Where that tone would be.

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Jessie Sams: Because stress obviously plays a role in assignment and so David go ahead and say that word for us our modern form.

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David Peterson: Well, at the moment it's Kali, but I am not not actually sure about that first syllable it doesn't have a code as zero it doesn't have an onset that's zero it's unstressed so that's a negative one.

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David Peterson: I guess that's it then.

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Jessie Sams: This in what's interesting we don't have a single falling down yet so we don't have any ties, yet, and so the middle syllable which received stress at that high tone trace for the stress it had a high tone trace because of the voiceless consonant onset and then we.

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Jessie Sams: Just like the new in the lead from the words above too low tone traces.

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David Peterson: So this one's gonna be the same.

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Jessie Sams: Are we going to have our first falling zone.

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David Peterson: um.

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Jessie Sams: Because this word is shampoo.

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Jessie Sams: yeah and who.

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Jessie Sams: Is unstressed so it's plus one for low so you'd say minus one right.

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Jessie Sams: And then it's got the P, which is a voiceless.

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Jessie Sams: onset which is plus one for high put them together their time, so we have our first falling down.

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David Peterson: Is that how we were doing falling down.

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Jessie Sams: yeah they tied.

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David Peterson: Really.

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David Peterson: But yeah sound like something I would have agreed to.

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David Peterson: it's.

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Jessie Sams: Literally what you came up with.

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David Peterson: Did we write that down anywhere specifically.

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Jessie Sams: Can you tell me when we would have a falling phone then.

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David Peterson: When when a low tone and a high to got stranded on the same maura.

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Jessie Sams: Can you explain what you mean by that.

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David Peterson: For example, if there was a consonant that was lost in between the vowels like merged.

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David Peterson: Or if later on during the process of your grammatical ization some suffix you know disappear phonological material disappeared enough that the tone that was stranded there ended up merging with the previous maura.

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Jessie Sams: And so I want to read you should the high tone influences went out the syllable will have hi TIM, should the low tone influences went out the syllable will have low tone in the event of a tie the syllable will take a falling down.

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David Peterson: That sounds like my writing.

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Jessie Sams: We do this i'm reading it from ages 13 to 14 and you know it's you because you know I wouldn't start a sentence with should.

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Jessie Sams: So.

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David Peterson: hmm.

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David Peterson: I mean you would under different different circumstances.

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David Peterson: For.

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David Peterson: Sure, I mean, for example, like.

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David Peterson: Should I spend this afternoon with the pigs, or should I spend it with the codes.

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Jessie Sams: always choose goats.

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David Peterson: Because they make different sounds goats with their with their characteristic objectives but up at.

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David Peterson: All the pigs doing there.

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David Peterson: And the goats, you know with our APP.

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Jessie Sams: let's do the next one.

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Jessie Sams: Which is a two syllable and i'm still struggling with my objectives, but at P, with a an objective K, and right now i'm laughing too hard to control.

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David Peterson: Just hold your breath just hold your breath.

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Jessie Sams: So the APP is going to.

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Jessie Sams: Take a high tone, since the stress syllable it's the first syllable and it has no onset or kota to do anything else, and then that second syllable is going to be the same as the syllable we had just talked about in Chapel and so it's going to be a falling town.

410
00:36:31.860 --> 00:36:32.340
Jessie Sams: So.

411
00:36:33.150 --> 00:36:33.960
Jessie Sams: yeah can we.

412
00:36:36.030 --> 00:36:36.630
Jessie Sams: do that again.

413
00:36:37.230 --> 00:36:41.400
David Peterson: So we have a pool, and he.

414
00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:47.970
Jessie Sams: That sounded wonderful the next word, by the way, is exactly the same.

415
00:36:49.590 --> 00:37:02.880
Jessie Sams: And I believe we were trying to test something here because roots are very similar but it's going to come out with the same pattern because it's instead of an e at the end of the word it's just the a sound and so okay.

416
00:37:05.790 --> 00:37:06.270
David Peterson: Great.

417
00:37:06.510 --> 00:37:18.930
David Peterson: No, no, like the first time that you just did it that was great what are you get off saying like Okay, so do you think that was great that was great river possum you gotta.

418
00:37:20.250 --> 00:37:24.030
David Peterson: You gotta give yourself more credit that was perfect and you can.

419
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:33.150
David Peterson: You can go and review the recording after this is done and verify that i'm not just saying that you did that perfectly you can do it no more.

420
00:37:34.710 --> 00:37:36.750
David Peterson: No more this Jesse can't sing.

421
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:47.280
Jessie Sams: there's a difference between can't and shouldn't there's just just want to say.

422
00:37:47.910 --> 00:37:49.500
David Peterson: i'm fine.

423
00:37:50.520 --> 00:37:53.190
David Peterson: Like What do you mean shouldn't who are you hurting.

424
00:37:56.130 --> 00:37:58.140
Jessie Sams: All the ears so.

425
00:37:58.320 --> 00:37:59.040
David Peterson: When bay.

426
00:37:59.070 --> 00:38:05.220
Jessie Sams: Is our next word and we have a voice on set for low tone, we have a.

427
00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:20.730
Jessie Sams: voice kota for a low tone so to for low tone, it is the stress syllable which is at one for high tone, but the two for low tone wins out so we're going to start this word on a low tone and we're actually going to all ended on a.

428
00:38:21.780 --> 00:38:23.250
Jessie Sams: high tone, I believe.

429
00:38:24.510 --> 00:38:31.290
Jessie Sams: Instead of low tone, why is Z item Oh, because of the tea at the end nevermind sorry i'm.

430
00:38:32.370 --> 00:38:38.010
Jessie Sams: Bay is the second syllable so it's got the voice on set and it's unstressed, and so it is live.

431
00:38:39.240 --> 00:38:41.160
David Peterson: yeah babies, though.

432
00:38:43.020 --> 00:38:44.190
Jessie Sams: Are we sure.

433
00:38:44.220 --> 00:38:44.880
David Peterson: Are eBay.

434
00:38:46.230 --> 00:38:46.830
David Peterson: When they.

435
00:38:49.590 --> 00:38:52.590
Jessie Sams: Are we sure we were assigning stress.

436
00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:55.800
Jessie Sams: On the.

437
00:38:57.510 --> 00:38:58.500
Jessie Sams: Oh, my gosh.

438
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:00.840
Jessie Sams: yeah.

439
00:39:02.100 --> 00:39:09.870
Jessie Sams: We should really read our own rules that we have written words ending and consonants are stressed finally words ending and bells are stressed on the penultimate.

440
00:39:10.710 --> 00:39:11.670
Jessie Sams: that's why.

441
00:39:12.180 --> 00:39:18.930
Jessie Sams: I know, but I was looking at and Z and trying to figure out why in the world that ended in a high tone when that.

442
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:20.580
Jessie Sams: You know.

443
00:39:21.660 --> 00:39:23.790
Jessie Sams: I was just trying to figure that out in my head.

444
00:39:24.120 --> 00:39:25.680
Jessie Sams: And I must have that's, why are you.

445
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.410
Jessie Sams: wish many we're here she's here business right here.

446
00:39:38.490 --> 00:39:40.170
Jessie Sams: So our next word is new chair.

447
00:39:42.900 --> 00:39:44.670
Jessie Sams: Okay i'm gonna start typing you go for it.

448
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:45.840
David Peterson: Okay.

449
00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:49.440
Jessie Sams: This is going to require ash with something i'm sure, so that.

450
00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:51.240
that's good anyone.

451
00:39:52.470 --> 00:39:55.590
David Peterson: So it's not a tie.

452
00:39:57.240 --> 00:40:05.070
Jessie Sams: We have a voice on set plus low tone know kota so no tone trace there and it's stress so plus items, so it is indeed a tie.

453
00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:14.130
Jessie Sams: So our first syllable new will be falling and then check should be falling as well.

454
00:40:15.540 --> 00:40:19.050
Jessie Sams: As it's a voiceless with high tone, but unstressed lodestone.

455
00:40:19.710 --> 00:40:20.580
whoa.

456
00:40:21.720 --> 00:40:24.090
David Peterson: whoa.

457
00:40:24.540 --> 00:40:33.930
Jessie Sams: So just when I thought we're never going to have a falling so because you know everything nothing's coming out as a time we have a word with to falling sounds.

458
00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:38.520
David Peterson: This language is NUTS no town Oh, my goodness.

459
00:40:41.580 --> 00:40:44.100
Jessie Sams: makes me want to keep doing this language.

460
00:40:44.160 --> 00:40:49.950
David Peterson: Okay who's who's this for did we did we say it was for a certain animal group are we just doing it.

461
00:40:50.820 --> 00:41:00.390
Jessie Sams: just doing it because people had questions about tone and where it comes from, and so this whole thing was an experiment and showing where Tom can come from.

462
00:41:03.180 --> 00:41:04.260
David Peterson: fascinating OK.

463
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:12.360
Jessie Sams: The next word is he got and stresses on the final syllable that ends in a K.

464
00:41:13.830 --> 00:41:20.430
Jessie Sams: Therefore, the opening syllable in is going to be low Tom because it's unstressed and has a voice kota.

465
00:41:21.060 --> 00:41:36.420
Jessie Sams: The guff syllable is going to be high tone, because even though it starts with the voice kota or voice onset rather you start with the kota it starts with a voice on set giving it a low tone trace it ends up.

466
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:44.460
Jessie Sams: With stress, which leaves a high tone trace and another high contrast for that voiceless stop kota that disappears.

467
00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:46.740
David Peterson: So we get.

468
00:41:46.770 --> 00:41:47.550
again.

469
00:41:48.900 --> 00:41:49.740
Jessie Sams: Yes, we do.

470
00:41:52.260 --> 00:41:52.590
David Peterson: yeah.

471
00:41:52.680 --> 00:41:54.570
Jessie Sams: And then time.

472
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:03.240
Jessie Sams: Has stress voiceless too high, and only one low for that voice kota so it's gonna be kind I.

473
00:42:05.220 --> 00:42:06.420
David Peterson: got it got it.

474
00:42:08.970 --> 00:42:10.320
David Peterson: fairly simple right.

475
00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:12.300
Jessie Sams: It should be high low right.

476
00:42:13.350 --> 00:42:14.010
Jessie Sams: yeah.

477
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:20.670
Jessie Sams: Yes, following everything we've done that seems about right, and then we have kind of.

478
00:42:21.900 --> 00:42:29.310
Jessie Sams: Where we added a syllable again doing some sort of test of one of our rules and so.

479
00:42:33.390 --> 00:42:41.010
Jessie Sams: And now, this is interesting, also as a side note if you're doing tone and as you're Reminiscing if you're marking the tone somehow.

480
00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:48.000
Jessie Sams: Through diet critics, if you have a dip song you do need to decide how you're going to be marking that.

481
00:42:49.890 --> 00:43:00.000
Jessie Sams: David has it marked with to acute absence of so it's over both the the a the I the word khaimah so you get to those accidents to show that it's the full depth.

482
00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:03.690
Jessie Sams: And so.

483
00:43:03.720 --> 00:43:08.820
Jessie Sams: yeah that's just also something to consider in terms of like yeah that sounds could be special.

484
00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:17.940
David Peterson: yeah you could also decide that the acute accident was only going to fall on the major like nucleus, which would be the off.

485
00:43:18.450 --> 00:43:30.570
David Peterson: And you could also just Roman eyes it differently so rather than having the depth on being a I, it would be a why or something that like that, and then you just naturally only put the acute accent on the.

486
00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:36.000
David Peterson: I just this this works fine so okay.

487
00:43:40.830 --> 00:43:54.840
Jessie Sams: So we now have all modern forms of our language with tone and now that we have these tones the question now shifts to how would tone be.

488
00:43:55.290 --> 00:44:11.670
Jessie Sams: affected by grammar because we had said that the register tones would also be a role in in some grammatical things and so i'm going to hand this over to David to chats about that connection.

489
00:44:13.890 --> 00:44:15.570
David Peterson: Thank you Jesse so.

490
00:44:15.600 --> 00:44:16.110
Welcome

491
00:44:17.550 --> 00:44:19.500
David Peterson: Go ahead we're washing.

492
00:44:21.330 --> 00:44:29.490
Jessie Sams: Not everybody's watching, because if you recall in this view, only the speaker is shown so everybody else would have missed the fact that I was taking a drink of water, except for you.

493
00:44:30.210 --> 00:44:32.820
David Peterson: huh Okay, you did you did well.

494
00:44:33.570 --> 00:44:34.470
Jessie Sams: Thank you, thank you.

495
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:35.550
I do it again.

496
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.600
David Peterson: So the first thing that comes to mind is.

497
00:44:42.690 --> 00:44:44.430
David Peterson: It would be fun.

498
00:44:45.510 --> 00:44:52.410
David Peterson: To get some tonal changes with with with grammar.

499
00:44:53.580 --> 00:45:14.400
David Peterson: And to me the most obvious and easy way to do that is having a very simple suffix and this suffix could will have a voice of stopping it and it will be a voice will stop when applied to words that end in a vow and it will be this vc you know vow plus whistle stop.

500
00:45:15.750 --> 00:45:29.820
David Peterson: When it's a attitude, where that ends in a consonant this is going to do a number of interesting things and so on, the document i'm actually just going to put these in parentheses after that so.

501
00:45:31.290 --> 00:45:32.100
David Peterson: let's just say.

502
00:45:33.420 --> 00:45:37.200
David Peterson: Jesse what's your favorite voiceless stop that we have.

503
00:45:37.890 --> 00:45:42.210
David Peterson: Okay got it and what value, you want to go with it.

504
00:45:46.230 --> 00:45:50.130
Jessie Sams: Oh wow is he, like are the letter E so okay.

505
00:45:52.080 --> 00:45:54.660
David Peterson: No, not in that direction, it was vc db.

506
00:45:55.380 --> 00:45:56.160
David Peterson: Make but.

507
00:45:56.340 --> 00:46:03.300
David Peterson: It also you're going to I think recall that we do not have that fell in the protocol.

508
00:46:04.170 --> 00:46:06.480
Jessie Sams: Oh, do not have it in the promo.

509
00:46:06.990 --> 00:46:08.700
David Peterson: know our vows are eat.

510
00:46:09.270 --> 00:46:10.170
David Peterson: On a.

511
00:46:10.410 --> 00:46:11.490
David Peterson: choose one of those.

512
00:46:14.160 --> 00:46:14.850
Jessie Sams: um.

513
00:46:15.900 --> 00:46:17.730
Jessie Sams: it's gonna be the central Schwab.

514
00:46:19.590 --> 00:46:21.810
David Peterson: Of course you got to make it difficult alright.

515
00:46:23.250 --> 00:46:27.480
David Peterson: So let me just quickly remind myself what happens to swap.

516
00:46:28.740 --> 00:46:29.370
David Peterson: Besides me.

517
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.110
David Peterson: deleted yeah.

518
00:46:32.070 --> 00:46:33.870
Jessie Sams: Would it be better if I said no.

519
00:46:33.900 --> 00:46:38.370
Jessie Sams: Even often when it would need to be equal and I just okay let's go with you.

520
00:46:39.570 --> 00:46:53.280
David Peterson: I don't know hang on hang on i'm getting those vows Schwab becomes a after front balls are after back balls and a when it's by it's one so okay that that's good that's good I like which I like it.

521
00:46:54.330 --> 00:47:03.240
David Peterson: I like it okay okay so parentheses let's go from top to bottom, we have a word and the proto form button.

522
00:47:04.950 --> 00:47:08.610
David Peterson: And here i'm just going to do it like this.

523
00:47:11.310 --> 00:47:15.510
David Peterson: In in the pro stage of the language, it would have been been plus UK.

524
00:47:16.680 --> 00:47:27.120
David Peterson: Because that's the that's the the inherent Val it's the the root ends with a consonant so we add buck, and that is going to become.

525
00:47:31.830 --> 00:47:33.810
David Peterson: A lay wait.

526
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:42.090
David Peterson: No, no, because i'll tell you why so the stress is going to shift to the final syllable.

527
00:47:44.640 --> 00:47:52.680
David Peterson: And that final syllable is going to get a high tone it's going to have to the valley is going to become a because there's nothing to make it off.

528
00:47:53.220 --> 00:47:58.890
David Peterson: So it's going to become a the K is going to disappear we're going to end so we're left with the final syllable of late with a high tone.

529
00:47:59.370 --> 00:48:11.850
David Peterson: The first syllable, though, is no longer stressed, so it gets plus one from the p it gets minus one from the fact that it's unstressed it no longer has a quota.

530
00:48:13.350 --> 00:48:14.100
David Peterson: And so.

531
00:48:15.210 --> 00:48:24.750
David Peterson: Whatever this is and again this is just a bit of morphology so this could be a verb or a noun this could be tense aspect number case doesn't matter.

532
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:32.310
David Peterson: The base form is Ben with a high tone and it's inflected for him is going to become a la.

533
00:48:33.450 --> 00:48:35.070
David Peterson: Falling tone plus high tone.

534
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:37.680
Jessie Sams: Oh, my gosh that's like super cool.

535
00:48:38.850 --> 00:48:45.720
David Peterson: So just wait because there's gonna be a lot of fun stuff like that, as we go on, but yeah go ahead i'm just gonna start.

536
00:48:45.750 --> 00:48:46.980
Jessie Sams: was just gonna say like.

537
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:48.270
Maybe.

538
00:48:51.390 --> 00:49:04.500
Jessie Sams: Maybe we should focus on some different word shapes because that was a CBC syllable in the root form and, of course, David then went to the next one, which.

539
00:49:04.980 --> 00:49:18.150
Jessie Sams: Is a two syllable form which gives us, of course, more to work with so in the proto form i'm seat so i'm in the first syllable seat okay.

540
00:49:20.220 --> 00:49:25.020
Jessie Sams: turned into and Z but now, with the.

541
00:49:25.710 --> 00:49:27.000
David Peterson: So that don't pronounce.

542
00:49:27.180 --> 00:49:27.870
David Peterson: It yet.

543
00:49:28.380 --> 00:49:39.660
David Peterson: Because we need to figure out the tones, this is what the form is so first of all, the one interesting thing is that you are getting the reintroduction of these consonants that got killed.

544
00:49:40.110 --> 00:49:44.610
David Peterson: So the proto form was was unseat and the modern form was nz.

545
00:49:45.060 --> 00:49:56.430
David Peterson: And there's just no way to tell that there was a consonant at the end, but now due to the suffix the consonant is reappearing that has nothing to do with tone it's just basically the old dead consonant trend for those who remember.

546
00:49:57.750 --> 00:49:59.730
David Peterson: My old web series.

547
00:50:01.020 --> 00:50:16.290
David Peterson: So now we just need to figure out what tones are the only difference is that that second syllable no longer has the high tone that was once associated with stress, so I believe the first syllable is the same and nothing's changed second syllable.

548
00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:18.270
Jessie Sams: Is.

549
00:50:18.330 --> 00:50:19.830
Jessie Sams: It will be total motown.

550
00:50:21.330 --> 00:50:33.420
David Peterson: Well that's actually where we need to ask the question, where does where is 200 reduced because was its onset voiceless at the time that tone was assigned or was it's onset voiced.

551
00:50:36.540 --> 00:50:37.320
Jessie Sams: That.

552
00:50:38.490 --> 00:50:42.840
Jessie Sams: is a very good question um and.

553
00:50:43.260 --> 00:50:44.760
Jessie Sams: We after had been.

554
00:50:47.160 --> 00:50:50.220
Jessie Sams: Oh yeah we actually we ordered these of course, we did.

555
00:50:50.850 --> 00:50:59.670
David Peterson: We did I don't know if we were thinking about it, but this is what place where our two rules actually come into conflict, depending on how you order them.

556
00:51:00.030 --> 00:51:09.750
David Peterson: So if previously, we had said, like the ordering wasn't important yet so we just put it somewhere now it's important and here's why, if.

557
00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:19.800
David Peterson: If Tony genesis happens after post nasal voicing, which is what is written right now than it is absolutely as Jesse said, this is a 100% low to and syllable.

558
00:51:20.370 --> 00:51:29.040
David Peterson: If, however, ton of Jeunesse has happened before post nasal voicing you actually have a tie, because you have a voice on set which.

559
00:51:29.460 --> 00:51:42.210
David Peterson: leaves a high tone trace and you have an unstressed syllable which leaves a low tone trace, which means that that middle syllable will become falling down, which is interesting, but let's go ahead and stick with the order that we have.

560
00:51:43.620 --> 00:51:52.830
Jessie Sams: Right, I do want to point out, though, that the ordering of our rules means that I think we have to revisit.

561
00:51:54.600 --> 00:51:55.320
Jessie Sams: We embed.

562
00:51:57.270 --> 00:51:59.940
Jessie Sams: Because when bay.

563
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.770
Jessie Sams: existed, because the initial syllable was a.

564
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.580
Jessie Sams: was a dip song you I did on.

565
00:52:09.630 --> 00:52:10.620
Jessie Sams: However.

566
00:52:10.710 --> 00:52:17.160
Jessie Sams: When I was looking at assigning tone I counted the w, but we should not be because to.

567
00:52:17.160 --> 00:52:17.490
David Peterson: own.

568
00:52:17.670 --> 00:52:22.110
Jessie Sams: Life before the dip song is simplified and becomes.

569
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:39.810
Jessie Sams: A w, so we need to look at that syllable lean as being a vowel sequence and not having an onset at all, which means stress is one for high tone voice kota one for low tone, so it needs to be a falling tone.

570
00:52:41.730 --> 00:52:51.480
Jessie Sams: Excellent that should be that, and that should be the only one that's affected because all of our other dip songs that were simplified had an onset.

571
00:52:52.140 --> 00:52:55.110
Jessie Sams: With yeah so that should be the only one that we need to change.

572
00:52:55.860 --> 00:53:00.510
David Peterson: Okay, so yeah very good catch and that's changed all right.

573
00:53:01.590 --> 00:53:03.600
David Peterson: And we still have.

574
00:53:04.650 --> 00:53:10.920
David Peterson: We still should have like 10 minutes, by the way, so hopefully we can get through all if not most, if not all of these.

575
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:15.780
David Peterson: And this.

576
00:53:15.930 --> 00:53:19.440
Jessie Sams: By the way, whenever you do these kinds of Ivan and I know that.

577
00:53:20.550 --> 00:53:36.030
Jessie Sams: Any experience you have with evolving proto forms into the modern and you're doing it all just by your own head working through all of the patterns yeah there will definitely be times, you have to go back and revisit to figure out.

578
00:53:37.530 --> 00:53:39.660
Jessie Sams: If you made any mistakes, just like that.

579
00:53:42.750 --> 00:53:56.310
David Peterson: So this is another one like like bill which become became Pele same thing, which in turn is going to be come to me and my goodness that does not like to be I tell a size that looks terrible.

580
00:53:57.420 --> 00:53:57.660
David Peterson: that's.

581
00:53:57.870 --> 00:54:03.000
Jessie Sams: yeah it's unfortunate, however, it sounds freaking awesome.

582
00:54:03.990 --> 00:54:05.520
David Peterson: Are you like it okay.

583
00:54:05.580 --> 00:54:09.150
Jessie Sams: yeah do you think it sounds cool.

584
00:54:09.780 --> 00:54:14.970
David Peterson: I think it sounds cool, but it was like that's so ugly that it makes me want to get rid of the Veil.

585
00:54:17.430 --> 00:54:19.620
Jessie Sams: Because of the earth atrophy not because the sound.

586
00:54:20.190 --> 00:54:22.050
David Peterson: Because of the feminization.

587
00:54:22.770 --> 00:54:24.420
Jessie Sams: Yes, yes.

588
00:54:24.630 --> 00:54:25.530
assistant.

589
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:39.240
David Peterson: I kid like it, just in case I get a lot, but just so you know Jesse and I are full partners so.

590
00:54:41.640 --> 00:54:42.540
David Peterson: That is how it is.

591
00:54:43.560 --> 00:54:47.610
David Peterson: And i'm grateful that Jesse puts up with my bullshit.

592
00:54:51.390 --> 00:54:53.160
Jessie Sams: i'm so glad this is recorded.

593
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:57.480
David Peterson: The evidence of it are.

594
00:54:57.930 --> 00:55:00.270
David Peterson: You gonna cut it out before posting a podcast but you know.

595
00:55:01.530 --> 00:55:02.310
Jessie Sams: Not at all.

596
00:55:04.530 --> 00:55:10.740
Jessie Sams: So our original proto form on this next word see you, it has that dip song, so you.

597
00:55:12.210 --> 00:55:29.640
Jessie Sams: became shoe in a high tone, but with the addition of the suffix we're getting a couple changes here because we're going to be bringing back the consonant that have been deleted that K, at the end of soup which disappeared, just like in seat.

598
00:55:30.660 --> 00:55:32.130
Jessie Sams: So that K comes back.

599
00:55:33.870 --> 00:55:37.020
Jessie Sams: And yeah I believe you're right that will be falling tone.

600
00:55:37.500 --> 00:55:45.480
David Peterson: yeah so it's gonna be the same as badly and it will be soon okay sorry she Okay, no, no.

601
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:46.800
Jessie Sams: No he checked it.

602
00:55:47.310 --> 00:55:47.850
David Peterson: yeah.

603
00:55:48.600 --> 00:55:49.410
Jessie Sams: you're welcome it.

604
00:55:52.860 --> 00:55:55.650
David Peterson: is going to stay low.

605
00:55:58.530 --> 00:55:59.220
Jessie Sams: So there's.

606
00:55:59.250 --> 00:55:59.640
David Peterson: going to.

607
00:56:00.750 --> 00:56:04.140
Jessie Sams: Be ash vs distinction.

608
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:06.810
David Peterson: I don't remember.

609
00:56:07.620 --> 00:56:08.460
Jessie Sams: Okay now.

610
00:56:09.810 --> 00:56:12.120
Jessie Sams: That has to do with.

611
00:56:13.590 --> 00:56:16.740
Jessie Sams: Whether there was a huge bueller.

612
00:56:18.450 --> 00:56:20.790
Jessie Sams: Because you've learned feeler merged, and so it.

613
00:56:21.180 --> 00:56:22.410
Jessie Sams: That had to do.

614
00:56:23.850 --> 00:56:25.530
Jessie Sams: With that, instead, I was just double.

615
00:56:25.530 --> 00:56:26.700
David Peterson: Checking I think because.

616
00:56:26.850 --> 00:56:28.230
Jessie Sams: My brain was on.

617
00:56:28.500 --> 00:56:34.800
Jessie Sams: My brain was on a Gala and you know how stress played a role, and so I was like to, we need to change that.

618
00:56:35.940 --> 00:56:39.000
David Peterson: No it's good to check it's good to check so that's me.

619
00:56:40.290 --> 00:56:41.310
David Peterson: that's good.

620
00:56:42.330 --> 00:56:44.580
David Peterson: Now we have slots.

621
00:56:46.110 --> 00:56:49.650
David Peterson: And so that will be spotty yeah.

622
00:56:51.150 --> 00:56:53.760
Jessie Sams: It should be it's gonna follow the same issue.

623
00:56:57.960 --> 00:56:59.400
Jessie Sams: That is good.

624
00:57:02.640 --> 00:57:06.090
David Peterson: It looks a little bit better I tell us is just not.

625
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:14.460
Jessie Sams: I you know I don't have a problem with any of the italicize forms that we have up here.

626
00:57:15.540 --> 00:57:18.750
David Peterson: You had a you had a problem with I tella sized ash didn't share.

627
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:26.130
Jessie Sams: Because it wasn't I tell us, I, so I did not have a problem with the I tell us is form, if it were actually I tell a size.

628
00:57:26.580 --> 00:57:29.400
David Peterson: Eight that was its form of I tell us ization see.

629
00:57:29.490 --> 00:57:30.840
David Peterson: Then the person, if you agree.

630
00:57:31.590 --> 00:57:34.770
Jessie Sams: The person who created this font should really make that skinnier.

631
00:57:38.490 --> 00:57:56.520
David Peterson: They are bold italicized okay oh here here's a good example of where we're having a change because we have a form that ends in a vowel so sinew is coming sinew which is going to change the stress.

632
00:57:57.750 --> 00:58:00.270
David Peterson: And so it's going to become.

633
00:58:01.680 --> 00:58:03.060
David Peterson: So.

634
00:58:07.080 --> 00:58:09.540
David Peterson: so sad new is becoming cynical.

635
00:58:12.930 --> 00:58:15.030
David Peterson: And it is purely a tonal change.

636
00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:18.420
Jessie Sams: hey.

637
00:58:19.410 --> 00:58:24.780
David Peterson: yeah, so this is a I know that this was one of the things that people were curious about.

638
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:33.930
David Peterson: And so, hopefully, like in and and, by the way, we're going to put out the with the podcast now that once this one is done in an heiress will put up a PDF right.

639
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:36.540
David Peterson: yeah yeah so.

640
00:58:37.590 --> 00:58:38.010
David Peterson: But if you're.

641
00:58:38.460 --> 00:58:39.750
Jessie Sams: Doing that every time.

642
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:41.610
David Peterson: it's yeah.

643
00:58:42.690 --> 00:58:48.660
David Peterson: But it's like here's a place where, if you were wondering how can you possibly create a situation where.

644
00:58:49.680 --> 00:58:58.650
David Peterson: Only tone change and then there's been a grammatical change well there's one we had a word with a high low pattern that changes to a falling high pattern.

645
00:58:59.250 --> 00:59:12.510
David Peterson: And effects, a grammatical change again we didn't specify which one, but that is it and you can see it's totally based on the phonology and it's very explicable if you look into the history of the language.

646
00:59:13.170 --> 00:59:20.550
David Peterson: But otherwise you just look at it and it's like wow that's nothing but changing town, and I think that you're going to see the same thing in this next word.

647
00:59:21.270 --> 00:59:39.990
Jessie Sams: yeah I was just gonna say cuz our next route is sadly and it follows the same pattern as sinew and so yeah we'll see the exact same thing, where, sadly, sadly, with a as it's like a love ashes until I need to say them out loud.

648
00:59:41.730 --> 00:59:48.810
Jessie Sams: it's going to change to falling highs so without any other surface indications.

649
00:59:50.100 --> 00:59:51.120
David Peterson: There we go.

650
00:59:52.470 --> 00:59:52.950
David Peterson: alright.

651
00:59:53.040 --> 00:59:54.960
Jessie Sams: Next, words are quite exciting.

652
00:59:55.440 --> 01:00:06.030
David Peterson: Yes, this is pretty cool I really like this if if we don't use this language, we should just steal this process that we did here for something else.

653
01:00:07.290 --> 01:00:11.400
Jessie Sams: wasn't one of them supposed to have tone, one of our longtime official languages.

654
01:00:13.620 --> 01:00:18.630
Jessie Sams: Or was it just that you had said it could work for some reason, a mouse.

655
01:00:19.020 --> 01:00:19.860
David Peterson: The mouse one.

656
01:00:23.340 --> 01:00:35.400
David Peterson: We could do it with the mouse language, we could do it with the mouse language, because it was initially it was going to be like a revamped version of my language in JAMA, which was a which had checkups and tone.

657
01:00:36.570 --> 01:00:38.190
David Peterson: could do that do that.

658
01:00:38.220 --> 01:00:40.890
Jessie Sams: Well, that says objectives in town, maybe we just started.

659
01:00:44.070 --> 01:00:47.700
Jessie Sams: A miniature form of what could be a mouse language.

660
01:00:49.590 --> 01:00:57.030
David Peterson: Okay, and then double checking on us, and so we have cali and that should be, I think.

661
01:00:58.380 --> 01:01:01.860
David Peterson: No, because this one has So there we go.

662
01:01:03.540 --> 01:01:05.850
David Peterson: There we go so early becomes a cali.

663
01:01:08.100 --> 01:01:09.060
David Peterson: that's cool.

664
01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:13.740
David Peterson: let's see what happens to chappie.

665
01:01:16.050 --> 01:01:19.020
Jessie Sams: otherwise known as Chapel I.

666
01:01:20.070 --> 01:01:22.830
David Peterson: Have you have to look up the just the commercial that's all.

667
01:01:25.230 --> 01:01:26.790
David Peterson: and

668
01:01:28.140 --> 01:01:29.220
David Peterson: same deal.

669
01:01:30.690 --> 01:01:32.130
David Peterson: So it's.

670
01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:36.240
David Peterson: Chapel and it's now going to become.

671
01:01:41.850 --> 01:01:42.240
David Peterson: Sorry.

672
01:01:44.340 --> 01:01:47.250
David Peterson: i'm sorry Chapel not not not checked it.

673
01:01:49.380 --> 01:01:57.330
David Peterson: wow the tones actually swap it goes from falling hi oh my God is so much fun.

674
01:01:58.440 --> 01:01:58.890
David Peterson: Okay.

675
01:02:00.540 --> 01:02:05.370
David Peterson: I really hope that everybody thinks is that the payoff was worth it, because I, so do.

676
01:02:05.700 --> 01:02:15.120
Jessie Sams: This is so cool so, but then that's going to happen to the next two words as well because it's high falling and they follow the same basic patterns right.

677
01:02:15.750 --> 01:02:17.340
David Peterson: No, this is going to be low.

678
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:24.090
Jessie Sams: Low because it doesn't have the onset which.

679
01:02:24.450 --> 01:02:26.640
Jessie Sams: yeah gives it the extra.

680
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:30.780
Jessie Sams: Point toward the high tone side.

681
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:38.370
Jessie Sams: Nice so Okay, so at key become low high so instead of high falling it's low high.

682
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:45.540
Jessie Sams: which will happen to the next word as well because it's the same word, but with a different value at the end.

683
01:02:45.900 --> 01:02:49.350
David Peterson: yep so a key and a K.

684
01:02:52.470 --> 01:02:55.350
David Peterson: We move away let's see what happens to this guy.

685
01:02:58.200 --> 01:03:01.320
Jessie Sams: That one's gonna be it's gonna be low.

686
01:03:02.370 --> 01:03:06.090
Jessie Sams: For the first syllable and then high for the second right.

687
01:03:12.420 --> 01:03:13.620
David Peterson: Yes, low.

688
01:03:15.030 --> 01:03:23.760
David Peterson: And then high, but we need to say yes, that that's what that one's going to be so it goes from being there to win bet.

689
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.240
David Peterson: But we need to go back to.

690
01:03:31.200 --> 01:03:32.910
David Peterson: A couple of these.

691
01:03:36.330 --> 01:03:38.430
David Peterson: And I will tell you why.

692
01:03:39.570 --> 01:03:40.170
David Peterson: shook.

693
01:03:41.310 --> 01:03:47.280
David Peterson: It should actually it shouldn't be too Okay, it should be sure haha remember, because the.

694
01:03:48.630 --> 01:03:51.870
David Peterson: The swab becomes an R when the previous Val was back.

695
01:03:54.450 --> 01:03:55.290
Jessie Sams: Right.

696
01:03:55.740 --> 01:04:06.270
David Peterson: sand with well actually No, this is where we have the question, where does that happen, does it happen before or after a pushes to add.

697
01:04:08.130 --> 01:04:12.390
Jessie Sams: Okay, so pushes to and rule number six.

698
01:04:13.680 --> 01:04:14.040
David Peterson: Okay.

699
01:04:14.100 --> 01:04:15.990
Jessie Sams: And in Rule number nine.

700
01:04:17.010 --> 01:04:20.850
Jessie Sams: The Schwab becomes an af different vowels if that fails.

701
01:04:21.870 --> 01:04:33.330
David Peterson: Okay, then, then that one stays the so this one has at, and so it stays same thing actually with swear that one also stays.

702
01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:41.550
David Peterson: Because of when the rule happens, and then the rest of these are ending with vowels but yeah so, then this one.

703
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:49.710
David Peterson: it's like you have all these were the forum is a and this one, it just happens to be our that's kind of fun that's cool.

704
01:04:50.100 --> 01:04:56.070
David Peterson: Yes, yeah and so it's a little bit it's a teeny little baby form of Val harmony.

705
01:04:57.810 --> 01:05:06.240
David Peterson: And so you could actually just produce you could you could really lean into that and make suffixes so that it's more likely that you would see that.

706
01:05:07.140 --> 01:05:21.600
David Peterson: And you can actually just invent Val harmony, where we have you know, would be the low forum and a would be the high form or I would be the back form and a would be the front for backs that's actually what it would be it'd be front back battle harmony not high low.

707
01:05:23.190 --> 01:05:24.060
David Peterson: So that's pretty cool.

708
01:05:27.420 --> 01:05:28.710
David Peterson: And let's do new.

709
01:05:34.350 --> 01:05:37.260
David Peterson: And so that's going to be i'm.

710
01:05:38.520 --> 01:05:41.640
David Peterson: gonna get a double low there so it's actually gonna be new.

711
01:05:43.980 --> 01:05:45.060
David Peterson: And then yeah.

712
01:05:48.150 --> 01:05:57.660
Jessie Sams: So that one, by the way, if you don't remember was our double falling town word, and now they now it's a low hi Tom.

713
01:05:58.410 --> 01:05:59.820
David Peterson: yeah no, it becomes.

714
01:06:01.260 --> 01:06:09.480
Jessie Sams: Pretty so we now have quite a few words were tone is the only distinguishing feature yeah.

715
01:06:10.230 --> 01:06:11.790
David Peterson: So wild.

716
01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:17.340
David Peterson: Okay, and this one has a boy scout masters it's pro form.

717
01:06:19.620 --> 01:06:25.350
David Peterson: In this is actually getting the Schwab K suffix.

718
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:28.170
David Peterson: And so.

719
01:06:29.640 --> 01:06:29.940
David Peterson: boy.

720
01:06:31.560 --> 01:06:39.450
Jessie Sams: curiosity, when you copied and pasted that you chose the second instead of the first form in our list.

721
01:06:39.930 --> 01:06:42.090
David Peterson: I sure did I sure did.

722
01:06:44.040 --> 01:06:48.540
Jessie Sams: cool I was like Am I missing something about when we're putting the suffix on.

723
01:06:51.240 --> 01:06:51.630
Jessie Sams: Okay.

724
01:06:53.760 --> 01:07:01.500
Jessie Sams: Right, so this one we're going to be rescuing a consonant again so this definitely has a full.

725
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:18.540
Jessie Sams: suffix that you can see, on the surface, and on top of that, the sra is becoming an odd because of the little bell harmony bit because it's yeah and it becomes gaca.

726
01:07:19.590 --> 01:07:29.160
David Peterson: And the reason that that second or the initial is staying as opposed to being pushed forward to as because in the protocol, and we had the queue.

727
01:07:29.970 --> 01:07:31.530
David Peterson: And so that's what.

728
01:07:31.560 --> 01:07:50.940
David Peterson: pulls it backwards and so then let's just double check the tones unstressed voice kota definitely low next one is we said this happens after the post nasal voicing so voiced onset unstressed definitely low so in gaga yep.

729
01:07:52.710 --> 01:07:56.190
David Peterson: In gotten gaga cool oops.

730
01:07:57.810 --> 01:07:59.880
David Peterson: Now three forms.

731
01:08:01.680 --> 01:08:02.070
David Peterson: Oh.

732
01:08:03.240 --> 01:08:06.210
David Peterson: Jesse knows something's going to happen i'm excited to see.

733
01:08:09.930 --> 01:08:12.060
David Peterson: So this is going to be.

734
01:08:14.160 --> 01:08:15.630
David Peterson: Okay, oh.

735
01:08:16.650 --> 01:08:18.060
David Peterson: Oh, what is this going to become.

736
01:08:19.050 --> 01:08:34.710
Jessie Sams: we've got so time is unstressed and it has a voice kota which means to low tone traces versus one high tone, so that opening syllable is definitely going to become low tone, the question is the Schwab.

737
01:08:34.770 --> 01:08:36.330
Jessie Sams: yeah what is it going to.

738
01:08:36.660 --> 01:08:39.360
Jessie Sams: harmonize with because we have a dip phone.

739
01:08:39.810 --> 01:08:42.900
David Peterson: So we have the idea of songs So what does the shrine to.

740
01:08:44.310 --> 01:08:45.630
David Peterson: that's a really good question.

741
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:55.770
David Peterson: And you can go one of two ways with that and say that the you know even within a dip thong usually one of the vowels is going to be the most prominent.

742
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:03.420
David Peterson: And in a dialogue like I it's no question that that fellas are, and so you could say that's the one that carries the day.

743
01:09:06.360 --> 01:09:17.490
David Peterson: As I think to other languages, I don't get a lot of help because, for example in Finnish, which is the first one that comes to mind when you get these dip thongs.

744
01:09:18.930 --> 01:09:32.190
David Peterson: is neutral, so you have both depth on I, and you have a depth on a and of course it's going to Roman eyes, with the the are the APP because he is neutral.

745
01:09:36.240 --> 01:09:38.850
Jessie Sams: And of course you mean harmonize instead of Roma Nice.

746
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:40.590
David Peterson: Is that when I said.

747
01:09:41.130 --> 01:09:41.490
David Peterson: Yes.

748
01:09:42.330 --> 01:09:43.590
Jessie Sams: Thank you, sorry that's what you said.

749
01:09:44.670 --> 01:09:45.120
David Peterson: Are you.

750
01:09:45.180 --> 01:09:49.260
Jessie Sams: gonna have to go back and I will listen as soon as we're done recording I will say.

751
01:09:49.830 --> 01:10:03.300
David Peterson: I really don't think I did I really don't think I did so we'll see if it turns out that I did, then you know, I guess, I really have to doubt my senses more, but if it turns out that I didn't, then you have to wear the pink shirt next time.

752
01:10:06.540 --> 01:10:07.950
Jessie Sams: As if that's a punishment.

753
01:10:09.120 --> 01:10:10.920
David Peterson: But his favorite color is p.

754
01:10:11.490 --> 01:10:15.060
David Peterson: You got tons anyway, though you look at and pink so that'll be that'll be fine either way.

755
01:10:16.200 --> 01:10:17.790
David Peterson: Okay, so um.

756
01:10:19.410 --> 01:10:25.260
David Peterson: What, what do you think just just from the sound of it, what do you like the sound of better tiny guy ma.

757
01:10:27.870 --> 01:10:31.770
Jessie Sams: So what's interesting is that my initial instinct.

758
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.220
Jessie Sams: Was the a sounded better, so I may.

759
01:10:37.260 --> 01:10:46.530
Jessie Sams: And, but slowly because of where you end in the depth on in terms of, even though the is the more prominent you end in a front position.

760
01:10:46.980 --> 01:10:50.310
Jessie Sams: And it just feels like with fell harmony you're going to want to.

761
01:10:51.360 --> 01:10:55.500
Jessie Sams: move towards the position where you end rather than where you begin.

762
01:10:56.700 --> 01:10:56.940
David Peterson: yeah.

763
01:10:58.380 --> 01:11:06.420
David Peterson: I really I think that is sound reasoning, and I think that for Val harmony languages that do that that's why that's why they do it.

764
01:11:07.530 --> 01:11:18.570
David Peterson: However, I don't think that you have to so if just for those listening, if you felt like you really wanted to go with guide ma I think there's justification for doing that I think either works.

765
01:11:19.620 --> 01:11:24.600
David Peterson: But I think that's exactly the reason why you would do guide me, and so I say we go with it perfect.

766
01:11:25.650 --> 01:11:29.670
Jessie Sams: awesome so now we're down to the last two and hula.

767
01:11:31.350 --> 01:11:32.640
Jessie Sams: Should.

768
01:11:33.030 --> 01:11:34.020
David Peterson: Really simple yeah.

769
01:11:35.190 --> 01:11:42.240
Jessie Sams: I would think so because I think it's going to follow the same pattern we've already seen.

770
01:11:42.810 --> 01:11:48.720
David Peterson: And there you go you can't get you can't get simpler than that, when it comes to tunnel differences hula versus hula.

771
01:11:51.150 --> 01:11:51.840
David Peterson: Very simple.

772
01:11:54.240 --> 01:12:07.350
Jessie Sams: Beautiful OK, so now we have khaimah and so hi mom and we need to figure out how that's going to be affected.

773
01:12:08.070 --> 01:12:11.580
David Peterson: hmm hmm Well, this is kind of interesting.

774
01:12:13.320 --> 01:12:14.310
David Peterson: Because.

775
01:12:15.780 --> 01:12:18.330
David Peterson: I don't think that there's going to be a difference right.

776
01:12:19.740 --> 01:12:24.390
Jessie Sams: we've got a voiceless onset which gives high tone.

777
01:12:26.310 --> 01:12:32.940
Jessie Sams: We no longer have a quota it's going to be unstressed which gives it low tone so won't it be falling on that initial syllable.

778
01:12:39.180 --> 01:12:41.040
David Peterson: Well then, why wouldn't have been on this other one.

779
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.820
Jessie Sams: that's a wonderful question David shouldn't it be falling.

780
01:12:49.200 --> 01:12:54.090
Jessie Sams: Because stress is full to the second syllable so the opening what becomes Chi.

781
01:12:55.410 --> 01:13:03.300
Jessie Sams: Is up being an open syllable because the m is pulled over to become kind.

782
01:13:05.400 --> 01:13:08.040
Jessie Sams: Which means again voiceless on set.

783
01:13:08.280 --> 01:13:09.240
David Peterson: high tone yeah.

784
01:13:09.630 --> 01:13:35.100
Jessie Sams: unstressed low tone and some to mark this falling which, if you recall, on a single Val was the circle FLEX David has opted to do the a in a in an acute accent with the I right next to it in a ground accent, giving it sort of it, Sir complex look over the entire default.

785
01:13:36.420 --> 01:13:36.720
David Peterson: yep.

786
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:42.870
David Peterson: But indeed those two forms are identical now so so.

787
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:53.070
David Peterson: time we have game becomes day me and Guy ma becomes gaming same thing so that's kind of cool.

788
01:13:54.540 --> 01:14:10.860
David Peterson: And that might be yeah might that might play out and be really interesting and also, if you were to create an authority it might be the type of thing that could actually be reified in the authority, depending on what type of warthog roughy it was and how it works.

789
01:14:12.090 --> 01:14:13.560
David Peterson: So yeah but otherwise.

790
01:14:15.090 --> 01:14:16.260
David Peterson: yeah that's the banana.

791
01:14:18.780 --> 01:14:20.280
Jessie Sams: As they say in California.

792
01:14:22.770 --> 01:14:25.470
Jessie Sams: So this will, as far as we know.

793
01:14:27.630 --> 01:14:42.840
Jessie Sams: wrap up any sort of work that we do on this language sketch, for the time being, and yes, I will I will remember to create a PDF to add it as one of the resources to this podcast episode when it does go up on patreon.

794
01:14:43.590 --> 01:14:52.980
Jessie Sams: So that way you can follow along and see or at the very least you can see, all of the final forums, as you listen to the podcast that can kind of help you.

795
01:14:53.670 --> 01:15:03.300
Jessie Sams: suss out what we're actually looking at as we're talking through all these forums, but yeah I hope that you found this introduction it's been a genesis quite.

796
01:15:04.470 --> 01:15:05.280
Jessie Sams: enlightening.

797
01:15:08.970 --> 01:15:13.890
David Peterson: Yes, so I don't know, are we supposed to say anything now, or do we just disappear.

798
01:15:15.510 --> 01:15:16.230
Jessie Sams: Well, you can just.

799
01:15:19.050 --> 01:15:23.010
Jessie Sams: know we you know say exactly slam it down.

800
01:15:24.180 --> 01:15:33.930
Jessie Sams: yeah we hope you all have a wonderful upcoming month because this will be available on July first and stay grammar.

801
01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:36.750
David Peterson: Yes.