WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.070 --> 00:00:06.029 Jessie Sams: Right. Welcome to link time chat think it's episode 10 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:08.760 David J. Peterson: No way really I've 3 00:00:10.349 --> 00:00:10.769 Jessie Sams: Been 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:20.100 Jessie Sams: Doing it a while. I feel like I just nine last time. So it may be 10 I may be wrong. And maybe I just welcome you to the wrong podcast. 5 00:00:21.390 --> 00:00:31.200 David J. Peterson: Okay, so we know it was at least seven or at least I know it was at least seven and if it was at least seven and that means it was at least eight. So this is either nine or 10 right 6 00:00:31.290 --> 00:00:32.700 Jessie Sams: A close. Yeah, yeah. 7 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:41.280 Jessie Sams: Yeah, you would think that I would check before I do my welcome thing. It's not that hard to actually check. But I always forget until the second I hit record and then I say, 8 00:00:41.550 --> 00:00:43.230 Jessie Sams: Don't know what episode. This is 9 00:00:43.650 --> 00:00:51.120 David J. Peterson: Yeah, well, this is coming out in December. Right. So I know that the earliest, earliest we could have started with march right 10 00:00:52.170 --> 00:00:53.580 Jessie Sams: Right, so maybe it isn't. 11 00:00:54.720 --> 00:00:56.730 David J. Peterson: Okay, we'll find out. This will be exciting. 12 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.880 Jessie Sams: We find out it's a puzzle for all of us. 13 00:01:01.290 --> 00:01:01.830 David J. Peterson: Okay. 14 00:01:01.890 --> 00:01:06.930 David J. Peterson: So, so be good. It'll be episode 109 and the title will be episode 110 it'll be great. 15 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:12.750 Jessie Sams: Except I haven't been using the, the one because we're not in seasons. 16 00:01:13.770 --> 00:01:17.010 David J. Peterson: I mean, we kind of are or at least that's the way I always looked at it, but 17 00:01:17.550 --> 00:01:23.250 David J. Peterson: Just now. Okay, you're right. No, you're right. We I did, I did release them in season. 18 00:01:23.700 --> 00:01:24.900 David J. Peterson: For some, right, because I 19 00:01:24.900 --> 00:01:28.350 David J. Peterson: advise them to the whole patron thing, but whatever. Yeah. 20 00:01:28.470 --> 00:01:28.770 David J. Peterson: Right. 21 00:01:28.800 --> 00:01:40.080 Jessie Sams: You're right, but like in my head this continuous. Exactly. So, um, so we will call this three different episode numbers by the end and everyone will be thoroughly confused. And that's the best way to be 22 00:01:40.830 --> 00:01:42.300 David J. Peterson: Here we go, want to wait, let's go. 23 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:44.850 Jessie Sams: 111 24 00:01:46.440 --> 00:01:47.580 Jessie Sams: Oh wait, no one's 25 00:01:48.780 --> 00:01:48.990 David J. Peterson: Here. 26 00:01:49.980 --> 00:01:56.700 Jessie Sams: Oh my goodness. Okay, so we are in fine form today and today we have a special topic. 27 00:01:58.530 --> 00:01:59.400 Jessie Sams: Because 28 00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:03.360 Jessie Sams: I realized that someone had asked 29 00:02:04.500 --> 00:02:14.610 Jessie Sams: Maybe a few live streams ago about my con lanes and I'm horribly slow about getting information onto my website still like don't go there, it's not 30 00:02:15.630 --> 00:02:17.730 Jessie Sams: So many things are wrong with my website right now. 31 00:02:18.390 --> 00:02:19.470 David J. Peterson: Jessie, Sam. I'll come 32 00:02:20.070 --> 00:02:20.430 Jessie Sams: I'll get 33 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:35.340 Jessie Sams: Thank you, David. Um, but I'm going to today, talk about my con length about my five that are most fully developed. 34 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:44.010 David J. Peterson: I am really excited for this, but just really quickly because I know you have your CV on your website. What if we called CBS cookie ventures. 35 00:02:47.370 --> 00:02:47.760 David J. Peterson: You're just not 36 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:53.400 Jessie Sams: Sure it would be much more exciting than curriculum it 37 00:02:55.200 --> 00:02:59.400 David J. Peterson: Except, of course, in the proper Latin, it would be cool. Very cool. Now we tie. Right. 38 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:01.470 Jessie Sams: It would be, but 39 00:03:01.620 --> 00:03:02.670 Jessie Sams: Who's proper 40 00:03:06.390 --> 00:03:07.650 Jessie Sams: I don't know about all of that. 41 00:03:08.160 --> 00:03:19.290 David J. Peterson: Okay, good. Yeah, seriously. I just thought of cookie venture, but this is exciting. I, I, I really want to hear about this because we're talking about your five most developed online. 42 00:03:19.740 --> 00:03:21.510 David J. Peterson: Yes, smoke. Wow. 43 00:03:23.100 --> 00:03:24.090 David J. Peterson: I will be learning 44 00:03:24.930 --> 00:03:27.330 Jessie Sams: And they're going to go in chronological order, so that's 45 00:03:27.810 --> 00:03:28.530 Exciting. 46 00:03:30.030 --> 00:03:31.440 Jessie Sams: Because that's the best way to go. Right. 47 00:03:31.890 --> 00:03:41.640 Jessie Sams: Yep. Okay. So just as a an introduction to me as a con linger because I think most of you don't know me outside of link time studios. 48 00:03:42.900 --> 00:03:58.470 Jessie Sams: Work with David. And so whenever I online on my own, just for fun. I do what I call a type of logically oriented approach. So in other words, I picked patterns that makes sense, given what happens in natural languages. 49 00:03:58.890 --> 00:04:06.300 Jessie Sams: But I don't really have proto forms or that kind of thing for two reasons. There's two reasons. 50 00:04:08.130 --> 00:04:10.740 Jessie Sams: By I don't really have proto forms. I just don't 51 00:04:14.460 --> 00:04:15.690 Jessie Sams: Just create a language. 52 00:04:16.980 --> 00:04:31.680 Jessie Sams: So again, a few reasons here, first and foremost, it lets me create for creation sake, and it gives me a puzzle to work with while removing like the biggest cognitive hurdle, right, because I don't have to think about where things come from just got to think about 53 00:04:32.850 --> 00:04:33.690 Jessie Sams: What I want it to be. 54 00:04:35.340 --> 00:04:55.110 Jessie Sams: Also, another reason is because I was that student in my grad school historical linguistics class who was never happy with any of the answers because all of them are guesses. They're all guesses. We don't know. So like I always got angry at proto forms like 55 00:04:57.030 --> 00:05:07.650 Jessie Sams: We have no evidence of this. We have no idea what we're talking about. So anyway, I was that student. And so I think sometimes I still have a thing against proto forms. 56 00:05:08.910 --> 00:05:12.270 David J. Peterson: That's done because I'm Jesse this episode. 57 00:05:14.520 --> 00:05:17.880 David J. Peterson: You took a historical linguistics class in graduate school. 58 00:05:18.330 --> 00:05:20.460 David J. Peterson: It was offered. Yes. 59 00:05:20.910 --> 00:05:23.550 Jessie Sams: It was actually one of the required courses. 60 00:05:24.210 --> 00:05:36.750 David J. Peterson: That is really, really cool. I of course took historical linguistics and undergrad, because the big focus at UC Berkeley. But UC San Diego. There's, I mean, there wasn't even anybody on the faculty there's nobody who could have taught that class. 61 00:05:37.380 --> 00:05:43.020 Jessie Sams: Remember to though that quite a few of our professors were from Berkeley. 62 00:05:43.650 --> 00:05:44.850 David J. Peterson: Yes, that's true. 63 00:05:45.180 --> 00:05:55.470 Jessie Sams: And so there may have been that carry over. I don't know how common it is to have required historical or diet chronic linguistics classes. 64 00:05:55.980 --> 00:05:56.820 David J. Peterson: very uncommon. 65 00:05:57.570 --> 00:05:57.900 Very 66 00:05:59.460 --> 00:06:01.800 Jessie Sams: Well, shout out to Aaron Shane is she has 67 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:09.690 Jessie Sams: Ever listening because she taught that class and I loved her. I loved how she taught it. I was just very angry at the field. 68 00:06:12.390 --> 00:06:14.820 Jessie Sams: So that's, that's how that played out. 69 00:06:15.060 --> 00:06:17.400 Jessie Sams: Okay, so that were like 70 00:06:17.700 --> 00:06:21.840 David J. Peterson: Diametrically opposed were complete and total opposites. 71 00:06:22.770 --> 00:06:26.190 Jessie Sams: Yes, but I also wanted to make sure I said that out loud. 72 00:06:26.220 --> 00:06:28.410 David J. Peterson: Because I know a lot of commenters have made. 73 00:06:28.830 --> 00:06:33.960 Jessie Sams: Comments about not having the evolved forums and I'm like, I never do so. 74 00:06:35.250 --> 00:06:36.720 Jessie Sams: Welcome to that club. 75 00:06:37.770 --> 00:06:40.200 David J. Peterson: Do you want, do you want my take on this or now. 76 00:06:41.400 --> 00:06:44.190 Jessie Sams: Of course, you're welcome. Just second sorry I realized that 77 00:06:44.670 --> 00:06:48.510 Jessie Sams: I'm sorry. Okay, I had to move my leg. Go on. 78 00:06:49.140 --> 00:06:52.230 David J. Peterson: Oh, oh yeah oh yeah cuz it's on. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 79 00:06:53.460 --> 00:07:03.030 David J. Peterson: So the way that I, the way that I kind of refer to these two are as an easy way is either week naturalism and strong naturalism. 80 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:09.450 David J. Peterson: Or or statistical naturalism for week naturalism and 81 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:17.100 David J. Peterson: You know, historical or democratic naturalism around if I forget evolutionary nationalism, something like that, but 82 00:07:18.330 --> 00:07:22.950 David J. Peterson: You can't really say that one is for sure, better than the other. 83 00:07:24.570 --> 00:07:26.250 David J. Peterson: The way that I put it is that 84 00:07:28.110 --> 00:07:29.700 David J. Peterson: Using this strong method. 85 00:07:32.070 --> 00:07:41.640 David J. Peterson: You get more for free. In other words, you have to invent less. It just kind of happens, but it takes a lot longer. 86 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:50.640 David J. Peterson: And not only that you're projecting a lot. So it's like I'm setting this up to get this and then you try it and it may not work out. 87 00:07:51.150 --> 00:08:00.690 David J. Peterson: And so sometimes it can be less satisfying or require even more work because you have to go back and like undo a whole bunch of stuff that you did that may have far reaching consequences. 88 00:08:02.010 --> 00:08:04.290 David J. Peterson: So it takes a lot longer, but 89 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.410 David J. Peterson: You have to spend a lot less time 90 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:13.860 David J. Peterson: Thinking about, okay, which one's of these should be a regular what kind of things should I have 91 00:08:13.860 --> 00:08:14.400 Jessie Sams: Over and 92 00:08:14.460 --> 00:08:18.360 David J. Peterson: They, they just kind of happen. So I really liked that approach. 93 00:08:19.710 --> 00:08:24.510 David J. Peterson: Because it does take more time, but I just feels 94 00:08:24.690 --> 00:08:29.280 David J. Peterson: It just feels more satisfying to me now statistical match. 95 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:29.940 Jessie Sams: Makes sense. 96 00:08:30.300 --> 00:08:37.050 David J. Peterson: Yeah, statistical naturalism. And I think what we all kind of hit and that's certainly where I was for a long time. 97 00:08:38.460 --> 00:08:56.640 David J. Peterson: And basically it's like, yeah, there's no proto forms anywhere. So you're relying entirely on your own judgment and on your own knowledge of topology or not or across linguistic knowledge to get something that you hope is going to approximate a natural language. 98 00:08:58.020 --> 00:09:02.640 David J. Peterson: And then the one thing is a lot quicker and other but a problem is that 99 00:09:03.750 --> 00:09:06.150 David J. Peterson: You're often constrained by what you've seen 100 00:09:07.710 --> 00:09:22.020 David J. Peterson: It's difficult to create something that that you have never seen that nevertheless could exist and a natural language. However, the big drawback for strong naturalism is that 101 00:09:22.560 --> 00:09:24.480 David J. Peterson: We don't know how language emerged. 102 00:09:25.110 --> 00:09:28.680 David J. Peterson: Right, so it's like at some point in time. 103 00:09:28.920 --> 00:09:31.590 David J. Peterson: At some point in time, you have to stop. 104 00:09:32.310 --> 00:09:33.450 David J. Peterson: And you either have to 105 00:09:33.510 --> 00:09:44.280 David J. Peterson: posit the origin of human language by yourself and then follow it along that path or you have to say I'm going back this far and no farther 106 00:09:44.940 --> 00:09:53.730 David J. Peterson: And so then it becomes a, like a turtle stalking question and say, well, what do you do at this point, like you have to create something. And so what do you do 107 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:57.750 David J. Peterson: When you're basically stuck again statistical naturalism or something. 108 00:09:59.370 --> 00:09:59.730 David J. Peterson: Anyway, 109 00:10:00.270 --> 00:10:02.220 Jessie Sams: So, so it all comes back. Yeah. 110 00:10:04.620 --> 00:10:15.450 Jessie Sams: So that those are all good points. By the way, um, and also I whenever I teach. I teach the 111 00:10:16.500 --> 00:10:29.700 Jessie Sams: I guess what you would call statistical naturalism and I teach that method to my students in big part because I show them patterns that they can use and also because it's for a lot of my students, they're brand new to linguistics. 112 00:10:29.730 --> 00:10:35.670 Jessie Sams: And so it definitely gives away to say, you know, like, hey, look. Try these patterns out or try something. 113 00:10:37.290 --> 00:10:45.780 Jessie Sams: I think it gives them more structure without having to introduce the evolutionary Sykes. I feel like that is more advanced for many students 114 00:10:47.100 --> 00:10:48.150 Jessie Sams: Are all students. 115 00:10:49.680 --> 00:10:54.450 Jessie Sams: I don't know why, like one student out there would think. Ooh, this evolutionary model is way easier than just 116 00:10:55.890 --> 00:10:56.370 Jessie Sams: Form. 117 00:10:57.780 --> 00:11:00.330 Jessie Sams: But that's also how I teach 118 00:11:01.710 --> 00:11:06.450 Jessie Sams: And in the con links that I'm going to be introducing today. So again, there's five 119 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:20.040 Jessie Sams: The first one I created for more artistic reasons but really after that the other ones. I was trying out certain things because 120 00:11:20.580 --> 00:11:24.180 Jessie Sams: And I think every con linger hits that point where you realize 121 00:11:24.660 --> 00:11:34.170 Jessie Sams: You want to try a new pattern, but you really can't introduce it to your language without it just being a muddle of a mess. And so, like, you have to reserve it for future language right like 122 00:11:34.470 --> 00:11:44.760 Jessie Sams: Okay, next language. I'm going to try this out. So, a lot of them. I had very specific goals in mind that I wanted to buy like what if a language did this. Or what if a language did that. 123 00:11:45.330 --> 00:11:51.630 Jessie Sams: And you'll also see that I just have particular tastes in languages because there are things that show up a lot. 124 00:11:52.920 --> 00:11:55.770 Jessie Sams: And I'm unapologetic about that. I like what I like. 125 00:11:56.850 --> 00:11:59.760 Jessie Sams: Okay, so are you ready 126 00:12:00.420 --> 00:12:00.840 David J. Peterson: Oh, yeah. 127 00:12:01.770 --> 00:12:10.500 Jessie Sams: Trying to get my screen all balance so that way I can have zoom in, in some places in my document with all of my notes. My like seven page document here. 128 00:12:11.760 --> 00:12:26.880 Jessie Sams: Alright, so my very first con line that was a real coddling is cute stuff and the speakers are humanoid they really just look human. But they're not actually AND IT'S ALL FEMALE SPEAKERS in a fictional world I created for a young adult novel. 129 00:12:27.990 --> 00:12:30.150 Jessie Sams: Type of logically it follows 130 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:31.140 David J. Peterson: That you write up 131 00:12:31.770 --> 00:12:32.280 Jessie Sams: I did. 132 00:12:33.180 --> 00:12:33.990 David J. Peterson: Are you serious, 133 00:12:35.910 --> 00:12:40.740 David J. Peterson: Wait, so we we both like written complete novels. 134 00:12:40.800 --> 00:12:41.100 Yeah. 135 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:43.020 David J. Peterson: I didn't know that. 136 00:12:44.760 --> 00:12:46.170 Jessie Sams: I don't bring it up often 137 00:12:46.920 --> 00:12:47.370 David J. Peterson: Like it 138 00:12:48.660 --> 00:12:50.910 Jessie Sams: I do. But I want to rewrite it because 139 00:12:52.680 --> 00:13:02.040 Jessie Sams: So like I've started rewriting it because I decided I wanted the voice to be a little bit different. It's so now it's in like three different states. 140 00:13:02.670 --> 00:13:06.210 David J. Peterson: So, so it's not something that you can just email to me. 141 00:13:07.260 --> 00:13:09.150 Jessie Sams: Oh, I can definitely email you 142 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.120 Jessie Sams: The original version, the edited version like 143 00:13:12.180 --> 00:13:16.710 Jessie Sams: You would get half a chapter of one style and then the rest would totally different. 144 00:13:17.520 --> 00:13:19.950 David J. Peterson: I i read William S. Burroughs. That sounds fun. 145 00:13:20.460 --> 00:13:31.740 Jessie Sams: Okay. But yes, no, I can, I can send it in to warn you though. Even if you make it through the whole thing. It's the first of a trilogy. And I've written the second one, but I haven't written the third one I really don't know where I want it to go. 146 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:33.240 David J. Peterson: Are you serious, 147 00:13:33.780 --> 00:13:34.560 Jessie Sams: I'm serious. 148 00:13:35.130 --> 00:13:38.550 David J. Peterson: So we both written multiple novels. 149 00:13:40.020 --> 00:13:40.770 Jessie Sams: Yes. 150 00:13:41.520 --> 00:13:43.500 David J. Peterson: How did she not tell me this. 151 00:13:45.090 --> 00:13:45.720 Jessie Sams: I don't know. 152 00:13:46.800 --> 00:13:51.330 Jessie Sams: Sometimes I'm a better listener has been thinker of, oh, I should say what I did to 153 00:13:52.050 --> 00:14:02.430 David J. Peterson: Whoa, okay. Also, I just feel like I have to clarify. I'm not, I have read William S. Burroughs I've read two of his novels and I hate them. So like 154 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:10.410 David J. Peterson: They're awful but but i really appreciate his style, but also gotta hate them. So like thinking I'm a fan. Alright. 155 00:14:12.300 --> 00:14:19.530 Jessie Sams: So moving forward, psychologically, it does follow a lot of patterns because you know it's trying to make it 156 00:14:20.910 --> 00:14:21.870 Jessie Sams: Natural like 157 00:14:23.010 --> 00:14:25.560 Jessie Sams: But there are definitely some less natural features. 158 00:14:26.880 --> 00:14:35.190 Jessie Sams: Including a very high frequency of voiceless for captives because my goal for the language was literally for it to sound like everything was a whisper, like a 159 00:14:36.900 --> 00:14:38.730 Jessie Sams: Kind of slithering kind of whisper. 160 00:14:39.300 --> 00:14:41.610 David J. Peterson: We talked about how I created a voiceless language to 161 00:14:43.110 --> 00:14:45.720 Jessie Sams: Oh my gosh. No, we have not 162 00:14:46.170 --> 00:14:52.140 David J. Peterson: I did it for the White Walkers because I reason that they wouldn't actually be able to vibrate their vocal folds. 163 00:14:52.500 --> 00:14:55.230 Jessie Sams: Excellent. So when I give you a sentence in this, you're gonna be fine. 164 00:14:55.980 --> 00:15:02.820 Jessie Sams: Um, by the way, for everyone listening. Yes, I'm going to make David read for me in my own languages. 165 00:15:05.250 --> 00:15:06.060 Jessie Sams: And so 166 00:15:06.420 --> 00:15:09.570 David J. Peterson: Now I get the name itself. It's perfect. Wow. 167 00:15:09.750 --> 00:15:10.950 David J. Peterson: Okay, sorry. Go ahead. 168 00:15:12.450 --> 00:15:19.110 Jessie Sams: There's also like almost all of the language is highly regular which means that's really unnatural. 169 00:15:19.650 --> 00:15:30.420 Jessie Sams: But a part of that had to do with the mythology and the lore behind the speakers and that's this community that not only resist change but like 170 00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:46.860 Jessie Sams: It's very much without going full bore into how the society work works. It's very much sort of this reincarnation model where the fourth generation when they die. They're reborn as the next generation. So there's always for generations of families. 171 00:15:47.460 --> 00:15:50.100 Jessie Sams: Whoa, it's so like 172 00:15:50.130 --> 00:15:50.700 David J. Peterson: Like this. 173 00:15:51.180 --> 00:15:53.400 Jessie Sams: There were reasons that it didn't change. 174 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.770 Jessie Sams: It also makes you question because you know that authors always you know like 175 00:15:59.940 --> 00:16:06.030 Jessie Sams: Write about something important to them. And apparently I was anti change for a while. I don't know. 176 00:16:09.030 --> 00:16:15.930 Jessie Sams: And so some type of logical things its head initial word order. So I had a via so language propositional 177 00:16:16.170 --> 00:16:17.220 Jessie Sams: My thing. 178 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:18.960 Jessie Sams: Too. 179 00:16:20.220 --> 00:16:24.330 Jessie Sams: I really like you're going to see. I really like the verb to either be the first or the last I 180 00:16:25.530 --> 00:16:40.560 Jessie Sams: Really just like that. Um, alright, so then we're going to jump in because I created this language. I started working on it in 2008 2009 to 10 it became like a lot more 181 00:16:40.920 --> 00:16:53.130 Jessie Sams: Language like and the grammar just kept getting bigger. And then we're going to fast forward to the year 2013 when I decided to join the LCC five coddling relay 182 00:16:54.330 --> 00:17:01.020 Jessie Sams: And I was placed in the second position or right after someone called David J. Peterson and 183 00:17:02.730 --> 00:17:14.190 Jessie Sams: It was of course it disrupt effects. And so I was freaking out any weeks never met you before. I just knew you were the dose rocky guy and like that was before you were david david Peterson, all in one breath. 184 00:17:15.600 --> 00:17:27.600 Jessie Sams: And so I was like oh my gosh they put me after him. I can't go after. Anyway, so I get the text and here is roughly what I translated that you sent me 185 00:17:28.140 --> 00:17:28.530 David J. Peterson: Or 186 00:17:28.620 --> 00:17:32.490 Jessie Sams: I'm going to read this because I need everybody to hear the full scope. 187 00:17:34.560 --> 00:17:35.820 Jessie Sams: Was translating 188 00:17:36.840 --> 00:17:44.520 Jessie Sams: So this is not about my language. This is about what kind of texts David will create if he is in charge of creating a text for a calling relay 189 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:45.570 Mm hmm. 190 00:17:46.650 --> 00:18:00.210 Jessie Sams: Come to me, my child, you will leave your family and ride beyond the mountain today but I give this advice to you before you will go don't trust a person who speaks with Turtles, Turtles can't be burned and they will scare your horse. 191 00:18:01.470 --> 00:18:04.440 Jessie Sams: You here, carrots, but only when the moon is full. 192 00:18:05.490 --> 00:18:08.850 Jessie Sams: The moon will strengthen that fruit and you will be strengthened to 193 00:18:10.260 --> 00:18:25.260 Jessie Sams: Finally, don't touch not once a tree that bears poems those trees are your enemy. They will dishonor you your horse in your ancestors all these trees are totally evil. I will hunt you and kill you if you even look at a tree that bears plans. 194 00:18:27.090 --> 00:18:30.570 Jessie Sams: I sneak this promise to you, my child, I will destroy you. 195 00:18:32.280 --> 00:18:43.170 Jessie Sams: Don't ever touch a plum tree but plums taste sweet, you should eat plums tried plumps to they taste good. Now ride my child right and scream like a goat. 196 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:47.250 Jessie Sams: I got to the end of that. 197 00:18:48.210 --> 00:19:01.800 Jessie Sams: And the very first thing I did was I emailed David because I was like, did I just miss translate half the text because I have no idea what I'm doing. And this is so bizarre. And do you remember getting an email from me about that. 198 00:19:02.700 --> 00:19:04.170 Jessie Sams: I do so many years ago. 199 00:19:04.470 --> 00:19:06.960 David J. Peterson: I do. I don't remember how I responded 200 00:19:08.430 --> 00:19:18.240 Jessie Sams: Something along the lines of, I don't have the original so I can't quote, but the message was the whole point of a coddling really is for you to use what you think is there, don't ask these questions. 201 00:19:20.520 --> 00:19:37.440 David J. Peterson: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't, despite the fact that I looked upon you as a as a deadly adversary. I couldn't have been that rude. And so if if you would like. If you would like a little trip down memory lane. 202 00:19:39.540 --> 00:19:41.670 David J. Peterson: I will actually find the email. 203 00:19:42.030 --> 00:19:48.360 Jessie Sams: Oh my god, because you know I don't save emails that old. So this was my memory. I'm very curious to know what you actually said 204 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:53.070 Jessie Sams: Well, David look that up, though. I'm going to fast forward. 205 00:19:53.100 --> 00:20:07.980 Jessie Sams: To it, because I translated it, I got it out in my 48 hour leg and sent it on, then I get to the LCC five, which, by the way, if you don't know that stands for language creation conference, I get there. 206 00:20:08.760 --> 00:20:19.050 Jessie Sams: And I had no idea what was coming at the end of the day until there was an announcement that the relay participants would get up and read their text from one of everybody. 207 00:20:20.460 --> 00:20:29.640 Jessie Sams: I will really my first reaction was, Okay, I'm gonna run away and pretend I never heard that announcement and just never come back. And then I don't have to worry about it. 208 00:20:31.710 --> 00:20:41.310 Jessie Sams: Because seriously, put me up in front of thousands of people to do an academic presentation or speech and I'm fine, but asked me to read in a language that's not English 209 00:20:42.750 --> 00:20:45.450 Jessie Sams: Nope. So I think I 210 00:20:45.780 --> 00:20:47.640 Jessie Sams: Think I made it through. 211 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:54.270 Jessie Sams: The first like two lines and then I just went like, you get the idea. And I 212 00:20:56.040 --> 00:21:01.230 David J. Peterson: Did I forgot about that. You know, I have to say, I'm really 213 00:21:01.230 --> 00:21:02.190 Jessie Sams: Sorry. Okay. 214 00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:06.330 David J. Peterson: That that's on me. That's on me and I'll tell you why. 215 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:23.100 David J. Peterson: Because like at that point in time. Like, I started the LCC relay at LCC to and then, you know, we kept it up. And so this was LCC five and of course all con lingers in the community, no it relays are, but I didn't ever realize that 216 00:21:24.180 --> 00:21:25.920 David J. Peterson: I was gonna say 217 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:32.610 David J. Peterson: Sorry, I didn't realize that, of course, somebody who didn't know what it was wouldn't realize how we did it. 218 00:21:33.090 --> 00:21:34.500 David J. Peterson: Huh, yeah. 219 00:21:34.710 --> 00:21:35.370 David J. Peterson: Yeah, so 220 00:21:35.700 --> 00:21:40.350 David J. Peterson: That was a shock. Yeah, that's something that's on me there. I should have. I should have 221 00:21:40.710 --> 00:21:42.390 Jessie Sams: Said that, okay, it's fine. The email. 222 00:21:42.900 --> 00:21:43.230 Oh, yeah. 223 00:21:44.340 --> 00:21:46.260 David J. Peterson: There we go, sent you the torch. 224 00:21:47.490 --> 00:21:55.080 David J. Peterson: Then I sent you an immediate follow up because I left out the word father in the lexicon. That would have been amusing. If that it's good. 225 00:21:57.060 --> 00:22:01.770 David J. Peterson: You say thanks, David, I got the text and I'm excited to get my hands dirty in it. 226 00:22:03.990 --> 00:22:04.650 David J. Peterson: Like that. 227 00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:09.090 David J. Peterson: Then you said 228 00:22:09.180 --> 00:22:13.080 Jessie Sams: Okay, I never want to hear another email I wrote years ago, cuz 229 00:22:14.460 --> 00:22:16.890 David J. Peterson: Hang on, because you're going to hear more. 230 00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:23.910 David J. Peterson: Hi, David. Does the Wii prefix on a verb. Make it future tense of the verb begins with a vow. First of all, yes. 231 00:22:24.450 --> 00:22:34.590 David J. Peterson: Also, I just want to make sure I've translated this correctly, the father tells his child to never touch a plum tree, but the child can and should eat the plums. Does that sound like what you had attended 232 00:22:36.870 --> 00:22:48.060 David J. Peterson: And then I said, very simply, yes. In the future tense semi-colon on the ladder. You have to decide for yourself. Smiley. See, I don't think that was that was so bad right 233 00:22:49.260 --> 00:22:49.740 David J. Peterson: One more. 234 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:52.050 David J. Peterson: Okay, go ahead. 235 00:22:52.620 --> 00:22:54.210 Jessie Sams: No, no. Go. Go on. 236 00:22:54.270 --> 00:22:54.840 David J. Peterson: Go ahead and 237 00:22:55.020 --> 00:23:05.430 Jessie Sams: Play that my perception is all wrong. And we can have a whole discussion about how memory gets good some colored by the fact that I was so nervous to send the email in the first place that 238 00:23:06.990 --> 00:23:15.960 David J. Peterson: Yeah, by the way, can we stop and appreciate the fact that I sent you that reply email at 944 in the morning. The hell's I do went up. 239 00:23:16.380 --> 00:23:16.650 Like 240 00:23:17.970 --> 00:23:18.510 Jessie Sams: Wow. 241 00:23:18.600 --> 00:23:28.590 David J. Peterson: That's impressive. You you emailed back one minute later, one more question in the title. It has a soul and which I parsed as have a father and own 242 00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:31.830 David J. Peterson: Possession. However, I've got an extra 243 00:23:31.950 --> 00:23:32.460 David J. Peterson: S. 244 00:23:32.580 --> 00:23:36.210 David J. Peterson: Is that a plural marker or is it simply a combining consonant take 245 00:23:36.570 --> 00:23:37.170 David J. Peterson: Home can 246 00:23:39.600 --> 00:23:44.400 David J. Peterson: You use you use that with animate nouns that and and about just an apathetic connector. 247 00:23:45.570 --> 00:23:53.730 David J. Peterson: Thanks for answering my question. And may I say this text is quite created Smiley, I have my fun with relay text smiling so 248 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.770 David J. Peterson: I don't know. That doesn't seem unpleasant. 249 00:23:58.560 --> 00:24:04.380 Jessie Sams: OK, so now that we've read an entire weird. This is going to be like a two hour episode, we're not 250 00:24:05.580 --> 00:24:09.720 Jessie Sams: Look good, but we've read a text message exchange. 251 00:24:10.350 --> 00:24:11.790 Jessie Sams: Yes message, email exchange. 252 00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:13.320 David J. Peterson: Yeah yeah 253 00:24:14.070 --> 00:24:18.450 Jessie Sams: Okay, I'm going to see if this works. Oh my gosh, it does. Okay. 254 00:24:20.010 --> 00:24:23.640 Jessie Sams: I am sending you in chat. 255 00:24:26.040 --> 00:24:27.030 Jessie Sams: A sentence. 256 00:24:27.090 --> 00:24:28.320 David J. Peterson: So you got it. 257 00:24:28.710 --> 00:24:30.330 Jessie Sams: Okay, and it's not 258 00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:33.570 Jessie Sams: It's not beautiful, what's up. 259 00:24:34.110 --> 00:24:37.260 David J. Peterson: I see no stress is that are the accent stress. 260 00:24:37.290 --> 00:24:42.000 Jessie Sams: I added the acute excellence for stress so that way you would know where to stress it thank 261 00:24:42.150 --> 00:24:51.570 Jessie Sams: You, you're welcome. Everything else is just straight up IPA. So like that's the only just because I don't like doing the IPA little uptick things so I just 262 00:24:51.690 --> 00:24:59.430 Jessie Sams: Sure, I just do that. Okay. So David is going to read to you a blessing. This is a blessing in the language. 263 00:24:59.580 --> 00:25:04.500 David J. Peterson: Okay, and otherwise there's no punctuation right just as is 264 00:25:05.070 --> 00:25:05.400 Yeah. 265 00:25:06.510 --> 00:25:09.480 David J. Peterson: Okay. And these are replaced balls are voiceless. 266 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:17.880 Jessie Sams: So if I were really good at speaking the language, everything would have been voiceless, including the bows. 267 00:25:18.750 --> 00:25:19.980 David J. Peterson: Hmm, okay. 268 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.070 Jessie Sams: Because it is supposed to be like totally whispered. 269 00:25:23.730 --> 00:25:24.180 Okay. 270 00:25:39.870 --> 00:25:42.570 Jessie Sams: Yes. Now I hope that came through on the recording. 271 00:25:45.990 --> 00:25:49.770 Jessie Sams: Then you just heard wizard that was, that was great pronunciation, by the way. 272 00:25:50.490 --> 00:25:53.310 David J. Peterson: There were a couple of stresses that were a little off. 273 00:25:54.780 --> 00:26:00.450 Jessie Sams: It's okay, it's okay. Um, some of those are compounds. And so the stresses off anyway so it's good. 274 00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:03.990 David J. Peterson: Especially now because I really love this word. So I want to do it again. 275 00:26:06.510 --> 00:26:07.410 David J. Peterson: That's how it should be. 276 00:26:09.030 --> 00:26:12.150 David J. Peterson: Just like that's very, very, very pleasing. 277 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.090 David J. Peterson: rhythmic pattern. I love it. 278 00:26:15.900 --> 00:26:26.760 Jessie Sams: Nice. Okay. So, this what you just told everybody the blessing literally translates to May your tree grow and have four branches. 279 00:26:28.110 --> 00:26:36.900 Jessie Sams: because four is a lucky number because always for generations for right so that's the cycle of life. That's everything and 280 00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:53.220 Jessie Sams: Very big into nature. And so, you know, yeah that's that's the blessing. Now if you changed it by saying, May your tree have three branches, you would be cursing them hoping that they'll always feel like something is missing from life. 281 00:26:54.090 --> 00:26:58.050 Jessie Sams: Or you could curse them by saying, May your tree have five branches. 282 00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:03.840 Jessie Sams: In which case what they're saying is they hope you live in paranoia that something needs to be destroyed. But you don't know what it is. 283 00:27:04.560 --> 00:27:07.200 David J. Peterson: Wow. That is awesome. 284 00:27:07.860 --> 00:27:08.580 Jessie Sams: Intense 285 00:27:08.910 --> 00:27:10.080 Jessie Sams: There's also say 286 00:27:10.260 --> 00:27:15.150 Jessie Sams: There's a curse being created that translates as May your daughter intentionally lie. 287 00:27:18.300 --> 00:27:26.550 Jessie Sams: Because they're very big on honesty and especially from family members and so yeah it's may your daughter intentionally lie. 288 00:27:29.040 --> 00:27:31.710 Jessie Sams: Okay, so that is language, number one. 289 00:27:32.520 --> 00:27:33.690 David J. Peterson: I love it. My 290 00:27:33.810 --> 00:27:45.780 Jessie Sams: Dad in 2013 teen. Yes. That was the year I created a language actually for a friend. 291 00:27:46.800 --> 00:28:02.220 Jessie Sams: Who had written this short story and she wanted a con laying and she didn't know she would ever publish it, but she wanted one and I'm like hey I create one every time I teach my invented class. So like, let's do this. And so it's called COO, Rob. 292 00:28:04.230 --> 00:28:06.450 Jessie Sams: It's, it's okay. I'm 293 00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:12.780 Jessie Sams: My pronunciation of my own names. This is why I'm making David read for me. 294 00:28:14.940 --> 00:28:26.850 Jessie Sams: But it is the speaker as a translator who wants a language that can express himself better than any existing ones because like all he sees are all the flaws and like the actual languages that he speaks, which are very many 295 00:28:27.630 --> 00:28:32.460 Jessie Sams: And so he creates this language. And in this language. 296 00:28:33.270 --> 00:28:41.460 Jessie Sams: Some of the things the linguistic goals that I had to play around with were that I wanted to keep all the sounds maximally distinct. And so, especially 297 00:28:41.790 --> 00:28:48.750 Jessie Sams: Among the consonant chart like I really kind of avoided some of the, the middle consonants. They were either really from a really bad. 298 00:28:49.410 --> 00:29:05.010 Jessie Sams: Um, and it's actually my only SV O con line that I've made on my own. I've made another one with David, but this is the only one I've made on my own. That's SEO and its head initial for the most part. 299 00:29:06.540 --> 00:29:07.320 Jessie Sams: I also 300 00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:16.920 Jessie Sams: Excuse me. I also wanted to play around with having a lot of zero derivation. So that way, there's a lot of overlap between different parts of speech. 301 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:18.240 Jessie Sams: And 302 00:29:18.840 --> 00:29:19.560 David J. Peterson: Hard thing. 303 00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:26.610 Jessie Sams: So that was some of what I was going for. And so this is a very short sentence. 304 00:29:28.140 --> 00:29:32.580 Jessie Sams: Again, fully an IPA and David's going to read that. 305 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:40.290 David J. Peterson: So I began. Wait, I'm sorry. That's straight IPA straight IPA. 306 00:29:40.470 --> 00:29:41.160 David J. Peterson: Great idea. 307 00:29:41.310 --> 00:29:43.530 David J. Peterson: Without our I began 308 00:29:44.430 --> 00:29:51.780 Jessie Sams: Yes and yes and you just ask, do you understand 309 00:29:53.130 --> 00:29:59.460 David J. Peterson: Huh. How's that intonation. I just you know how to do something. So I put it kind of growing up that right 310 00:29:59.610 --> 00:30:06.030 Jessie Sams: I, I like it. I honestly didn't get that far because it was meant to be written. And so I didn't think about the full Centennial 311 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:12.990 Jessie Sams: Pronunciation and every word has one syllable. So stress wasn't in that wasn't 312 00:30:14.490 --> 00:30:18.030 David J. Peterson: Well, certainly not with the intonation. You know, the 313 00:30:18.300 --> 00:30:20.940 Jessie Sams: Oh yeah, you know. Yeah, but I didn't get that far. So 314 00:30:22.110 --> 00:30:22.380 Jessie Sams: I 315 00:30:23.010 --> 00:30:26.640 David J. Peterson: Written you didn't. You didn't even drop a question mark on there. 316 00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:29.820 Jessie Sams: No cuz it's IPA, but 317 00:30:35.100 --> 00:30:38.940 Jessie Sams: This is the point where David's about the closest laptop and walk away. I'm 318 00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:51.930 Jessie Sams: Done. Here's another sentence. If you want to just hear a little bit more. And this one has my name in it because I was just showing how you can like pop names into questions. So it's another question. 319 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:55.470 David J. Peterson: Huh. 320 00:30:57.450 --> 00:30:58.350 David J. Peterson: It's gonna be a little tougher. 321 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.270 David J. Peterson: Who watches the way 322 00:31:05.250 --> 00:31:05.760 Jessie Sams: Oh, yes. 323 00:31:09.030 --> 00:31:09.420 David J. Peterson: I do 324 00:31:10.140 --> 00:31:12.060 Jessie Sams: Oh, good, good. Sorry, I didn't hear. 325 00:31:12.750 --> 00:31:13.770 David J. Peterson: What you said after that. 326 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:18.720 Jessie Sams: I said, nice. I thought you under it's good, it's good. So you just asked, Where can I find Jesse 327 00:31:19.500 --> 00:31:20.610 David J. Peterson: I'm OK. 328 00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:34.350 Jessie Sams: OK, so that's language. Number two, not really, fully developed. And by the way, because you looked at me funny when I said the name. That's the name of the language. So you can go ahead and read it. 329 00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:37.230 David J. Peterson: And it's just on the last syllable. 330 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.580 Know smokers. 331 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:52.290 Jessie Sams: Yes. And so that's a compound, all, all of the words were one syllable, but 332 00:31:52.320 --> 00:32:00.000 Jessie Sams: Calm down. Sometimes I wrote them as one word and because of the way I named files like I wanted as one word. So technically, it's two words but anyway. 333 00:32:00.120 --> 00:32:01.590 David J. Peterson: Yeah, yeah. No. No. Good. 334 00:32:02.220 --> 00:32:02.940 Jessie Sams: It's a whole thing. 335 00:32:03.270 --> 00:32:18.510 Jessie Sams: Okay, so that takes us through 2015 know yeah 2013 so then I taught my invented class again in 2015 and I needed another language and trying to think 17 336 00:32:19.380 --> 00:32:22.260 Jessie Sams: Know 2015 I know what happened. 337 00:32:25.080 --> 00:32:31.260 Jessie Sams: Or was that 2013 I am so confused on my dates 2013 was not the year 338 00:32:32.460 --> 00:32:35.520 Jessie Sams: Was it. No. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. I'm so sorry. 339 00:32:35.670 --> 00:32:36.150 Jessie Sams: It was 340 00:32:36.510 --> 00:32:37.770 2015 341 00:32:38.820 --> 00:32:47.760 Jessie Sams: was the year that I actually was trying something totally different ended up being a language sketch instead of a full Connie. I didn't have time to fill it all out. So I just 342 00:32:49.110 --> 00:32:53.310 Jessie Sams: Moved on in life so that that year is 2017 343 00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:57.960 Jessie Sams: That's where we get to Noma. Okay. 344 00:32:59.130 --> 00:33:04.980 Jessie Sams: And this is the only one that I actually have online because it's on feeling 345 00:33:07.230 --> 00:33:14.130 Jessie Sams: My grammar for that. And so this one is a head final language which I wanted to play with, because I hadn't done in SOV language. 346 00:33:14.520 --> 00:33:24.240 Jessie Sams: And the other thing I wanted to experiment with was an office theory language. So this was my first time trying to work from the language and move forward. 347 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:33.810 Jessie Sams: And I'm starting to question myself again because I think I actually published this in 2016 which means I would have created it in 2015 which means I have no idea which year I made this 348 00:33:35.100 --> 00:33:37.380 David J. Peterson: I thought that you had said 2015 349 00:33:38.340 --> 00:33:40.200 Jessie Sams: I did. But then I changed my mind. Didn't I 350 00:33:41.070 --> 00:33:42.690 Jessie Sams: Know, whatever. Okay. 351 00:33:42.870 --> 00:33:46.770 Jessie Sams: Yeah, the goal is, it was somewhere after 352 00:33:48.660 --> 00:33:49.530 Jessie Sams: But before 353 00:33:53.250 --> 00:34:01.980 Jessie Sams: No, it was 2015 because now I remember what I did in 2017. Okay. Um, so I'm going to read this short introduction 354 00:34:02.370 --> 00:34:14.490 Jessie Sams: Because it's in the grammar, too. But like if you recall at one point I said it has influenced from Turkish and you looked at me and I was like, it has reasons and commenters thought that was hilarious, but I was like, they need to know reasons. 355 00:34:15.180 --> 00:34:22.560 Jessie Sams: So, so you don't have to go, like, read the whole thing. But here's where my good Noma language came from. 356 00:34:23.820 --> 00:34:27.990 Jessie Sams: So first of all, my speakers, by the way, we're obviously my garden gnomes okay 357 00:34:30.630 --> 00:34:40.680 Jessie Sams: Because if you don't know I collect them David knows, but I don't know that everybody listening knows that I I kind of am obsessed with cute little garden gnomes okay 358 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.210 Jessie Sams: So in the early eighth century this history goes back 359 00:34:45.540 --> 00:34:45.810 David J. Peterson: Yeah. 360 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:51.630 Jessie Sams: There's a word like tribe of Goths and they may have been the last Gothic tribe to speak the language. We don't know. 361 00:34:53.220 --> 00:35:04.350 Jessie Sams: It's a great thing about history, who knows, and they began setting out on raids from their home territory, so they were originally in the community Crimean Peninsula and they started going on grades. 362 00:35:04.950 --> 00:35:19.650 Jessie Sams: The raids often involve kidnapping and Arsene arson, they left neighboring villages and any travelers and very dangerous situations, not good people and one of these bands of travelers that they came across was a group of money. 363 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:32.250 Jessie Sams: And so when the gas attack the group they kidnap one of the women killing her husband and sounds in the process. But what they didn't realize what was that they had just kidnapped a skilled which 364 00:35:33.030 --> 00:35:48.300 Jessie Sams: And she was not happy about that. And so instead of extracting revenge by killing the gods. She turned them all into small peaceful creatures who turned into statue in the presence of a human. And so that meant they would be unable to harm any other humans. 365 00:35:49.350 --> 00:36:00.690 Jessie Sams: And so in casting such a powerful spell she transferred some of her magical powers to them. So they did have this special power to care for the earth, which is why they're associated with 366 00:36:00.690 --> 00:36:12.210 Jessie Sams: Gardens and the which found her ravished band of fellow travelers lead them back to the Goth camp and they collected all the statues and then they ended up kind of taking them with them. 367 00:36:13.140 --> 00:36:22.680 Jessie Sams: They moved into an area with Turkish settling settlers and the small statues were placed in gardens and lush vegetation grew all around them. 368 00:36:23.580 --> 00:36:31.050 Jessie Sams: So many years later they had lost a lot of their original culture and language because they were surrounded by sounds of other languages, including many IN TURKISH 369 00:36:31.500 --> 00:36:39.060 Jessie Sams: And though the gospel could still move in speak with each other in the absence of humans their movements were obviously constrained because there's just these little 370 00:36:40.200 --> 00:36:41.520 Jessie Sams: garden gnome things 371 00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:56.250 Jessie Sams: And so that's good. There's more to it, but I'm going to skip that part. And eventually, a leader emerged, they called for a revival of their own have a new culture. 372 00:36:57.270 --> 00:37:05.730 Jessie Sams: And not the word like culture they had and also their language had had, you know, changed quite a bit as well so 373 00:37:06.420 --> 00:37:15.000 Jessie Sams: They adopted a new identity. So they left behind their graphic identity to become the good known Moni, a word borrowed from Greek meaning the ones that know 374 00:37:15.720 --> 00:37:30.660 Jessie Sams: And this reflects the fact that humans view them as only statues, but they had intelligence and wisdom stored from their years of experiences human watchers and so they use this new cultural identity to name their language and they called it granola. 375 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.530 Jessie Sams: And so that is who the speakers are 376 00:37:35.670 --> 00:37:40.410 David J. Peterson: Do they have sentience or conscience, while they're in their statue for him. 377 00:37:41.790 --> 00:37:47.580 Jessie Sams: Yes, so they can watch that's why they're like such good human watchers. So they see everything going on around them. 378 00:37:48.450 --> 00:37:54.150 Jessie Sams: They feel it. They know it but they they can't say anything or do anything until there's no few months. 379 00:37:54.660 --> 00:37:56.940 David J. Peterson: Wow, that's really good as a punishment. Okay. 380 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:18.090 Jessie Sams: So they also, by the way, can't die unless they get broken and then that's how they die. And so some of them are still like thousands of years old and yeah and that's why, like the worst thing that any of them could say like their, their version of the F bomb is break you. And that's like 381 00:38:20.070 --> 00:38:27.300 Jessie Sams: Just cross the line there. Okay, so I'm giving you a sentence. This one came with a period on it. 382 00:38:28.710 --> 00:38:36.270 Jessie Sams: Also an IPA with accent marks to tell you where to stress, if there's no accent mark. It's on the first syllable. 383 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.620 David J. Peterson: Yes. And this is straight IPA. Yeah. 384 00:38:40.980 --> 00:38:42.180 Jessie Sams: Great IPA. 385 00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:44.640 David J. Peterson: Yes, regular trill our 386 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.090 David J. Peterson: Man Here you drill and arm. 387 00:38:53.550 --> 00:38:56.970 David J. Peterson: Is very nice. Thank you. Okay. Okay. 388 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.270 David J. Peterson: Yeah do grab Beyonce. 389 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:10.020 David J. Peterson: Generated the astronaut the end yeah do Caribbean's twice. Go money. 390 00:39:11.790 --> 00:39:18.240 David J. Peterson: Now wrong stress. Yeah, dude. Robbie. And I go, man named good mood zombie 391 00:39:19.470 --> 00:39:25.440 David J. Peterson: Maximum right there. The beyond was yeah yeah wife's car yard was 392 00:39:27.450 --> 00:39:36.540 Jessie Sams: Nice. Yeah. Those I really wanted those Jimena in showing up in odd places but I struggle with saying it so it never comes out right when I say it. 393 00:39:37.020 --> 00:39:37.680 David J. Peterson: It has 394 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:44.820 David J. Peterson: See, I just want a little bit more practice with this. So usually, that's what I do. I guess that 395 00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:56.100 David J. Peterson: I feel like it's got a very nice, real into it. I began to. I go, man. Give him a, b, and was your wife. Yeah. 396 00:39:57.420 --> 00:39:58.650 Jessie Sams: There we go. That was 397 00:39:58.650 --> 00:39:58.860 David J. Peterson: Nice. 398 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:00.630 Jessie Sams: You only needed like twice. 399 00:40:01.650 --> 00:40:02.730 You just said. 400 00:40:03.990 --> 00:40:09.090 Jessie Sams: Just said a wizard gave two men seeds that would grow into magical trees. 401 00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:12.270 David J. Peterson: I started with. 402 00:40:12.600 --> 00:40:13.770 Jessie Sams: The start of a fable. 403 00:40:14.550 --> 00:40:14.910 Nice. 404 00:40:16.050 --> 00:40:23.250 Jessie Sams: So one of the things I like to do is have fun with like curses and blessings and things like that. And so 405 00:40:25.020 --> 00:40:39.120 Jessie Sams: It's really taboo for them to talk about fights or wars among themselves because of their history because like that's what turned them into stone. Right, so like it's really taboo to talk about it. So they do though have native words. So like 406 00:40:40.380 --> 00:40:59.130 Jessie Sams: Do you gun means fight, but it's never used because that's their like their native word, and it's really taboo to say it. And so if they want to talk about humans fighting. They actually borrowed the word caulk gun in if they want to refer to their own fighting. They use a euphemism. 407 00:41:00.390 --> 00:41:03.000 Jessie Sams: Ooh, Qian which means to make a lot of noise. 408 00:41:03.870 --> 00:41:04.710 David J. Peterson: Hmm, that's good. 409 00:41:05.340 --> 00:41:08.100 Jessie Sams: And then a curse. 410 00:41:08.610 --> 00:41:14.070 Jessie Sams: Is give Young's are young, which means grow bad plants. 411 00:41:18.240 --> 00:41:21.060 Jessie Sams: Okay, so that is good Noma. 412 00:41:22.140 --> 00:41:23.310 Jessie Sams: Thank you, little nose. 413 00:41:23.640 --> 00:41:24.900 Jessie Sams: Okay, so then 414 00:41:26.220 --> 00:41:29.670 Jessie Sams: I'm back on track with my years. I know what year it is. 415 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:37.770 Jessie Sams: In 2017 I created Guinness. Oh, and this language. 416 00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:43.170 Jessie Sams: Really my goal was to do more work with head final languages. 417 00:41:44.190 --> 00:41:49.770 Jessie Sams: And experiment with say head final, I swear. This was head initial though. 418 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:52.650 Jessie Sams: I mean, you know, it said 419 00:41:53.700 --> 00:41:54.420 Jessie Sams: It said final 420 00:41:55.830 --> 00:42:02.640 Jessie Sams: For some reason, I just thought the structure was different. And I also wanted to experiment with highly a gluten eating languages. 421 00:42:03.060 --> 00:42:11.370 Jessie Sams: That had noun categories, but not known categories and the way that you have a base and you have fun with it because I didn't do that. It was more that I 422 00:42:12.060 --> 00:42:25.560 Jessie Sams: was inspired by languages like Swahili and higher and higher, like where if you want to say like one. You have to know what noun class you're dealing with, like, you can't even say like, what the number one is unless you know what you're counting like that kind of 423 00:42:25.590 --> 00:42:34.590 Jessie Sams: Yeah, so I wanted to do that. And so then this language is just back to being a priori, like all the rest of my languages are just 424 00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:46.500 Jessie Sams: For me, and so these speakers lives of the Guinea. So the language name and the people name is the same. They live on an island on an alternate version of Earth. 425 00:42:48.180 --> 00:42:52.530 Jessie Sams: And they when they arrived on the island. Originally they settled in a tropical forest area. 426 00:42:53.640 --> 00:42:56.160 Jessie Sams: Because that's where just where, you know, the sea brought them in 427 00:42:57.180 --> 00:43:04.890 Jessie Sams: And so lots of like big trees and everything. And they actually took their boats and tied them up into the trees to create shelters high off the ground. 428 00:43:05.850 --> 00:43:16.860 Jessie Sams: Which is good because the the forest floor actually has many poisonous plants and insects and once they figure that out there like, oh, we should keep living entries. So this is actually like a tree civilization. They live up in 429 00:43:18.090 --> 00:43:21.330 Jessie Sams: And like, with all the big bridges connecting them and everything was great to 430 00:43:21.330 --> 00:43:22.650 Jessie Sams: Imagine that look like 431 00:43:24.450 --> 00:43:31.290 Jessie Sams: So when they first arrived there their group is really unified and they have a small oligarchy to make major decisions. 432 00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:40.260 Jessie Sams: And eventually, like their, their community needed to be divided like up into groups of people who are responsible for different aspects of life. 433 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:50.220 Jessie Sams: And so like they have builders expedition teams caretakers crafters, and so on. So, like they're they very much know like everybody has this purpose. 434 00:43:50.550 --> 00:44:07.350 Jessie Sams: Otherwise, they can't stay. They celebrate their mother goddess in an assortment of minor gods and goddesses, all of whom also worship the mother goddess and their major festival is an annual festival of lights that celebrates how the mother goddess led them via the stars to the island. 435 00:44:09.060 --> 00:44:12.690 Jessie Sams: And so this is this group and here 436 00:44:13.830 --> 00:44:15.090 Jessie Sams: Is a sentence. 437 00:44:16.590 --> 00:44:17.940 Jessie Sams: For David to read 438 00:44:21.090 --> 00:44:25.080 Jessie Sams: And this was my first language with an objective. 439 00:44:26.430 --> 00:44:29.250 David J. Peterson: C didn't have experience with it before manager. 440 00:44:40.770 --> 00:44:41.910 David J. Peterson: Okay, I think I got it. 441 00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:52.410 David J. Peterson: You book added a new failure on what the ad that you're mad. 442 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.960 Jessie Sams: Yes. Oh, that's nice. Well, my languages sounds so much better when someone else's reading them. 443 00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:07.740 David J. Peterson: And this this type of thing is easier for this. I don't know. I don't even know how to define it, but I just like looking at all the languages is like, yeah, I can do that one. 444 00:45:08.640 --> 00:45:19.470 Jessie Sams: Excellent. This one is third person animate subjects or whether it she or he found berries near that tall tree so 445 00:45:21.390 --> 00:45:31.020 Jessie Sams: You know, talking about that. I'm in it. We do have a post position. So this is a post positional language being all head final and whatnot. 446 00:45:32.820 --> 00:45:47.250 Jessie Sams: And I also did another thing I experimented with was by personal marketing and so the verb is the final word. And so the thought is the third singular subject, and then you'll is the third person plural object. 447 00:45:47.910 --> 00:45:51.840 David J. Peterson: So you basically like predicted many 448 00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:53.820 David J. Peterson: Like 449 00:45:55.980 --> 00:46:01.500 Jessie Sams: I was preparing I was preparing myself before I knew that it would be a thing. 450 00:46:02.520 --> 00:46:06.510 David J. Peterson: Yeah. And like many she was even originally, you know, had final with 451 00:46:06.540 --> 00:46:09.960 David J. Peterson: Great, you know, word final verbs. That's so wild. 452 00:46:10.650 --> 00:46:11.520 Jessie Sams: It really is. 453 00:46:12.900 --> 00:46:14.130 Jessie Sams: It's funny how those workout. 454 00:46:15.630 --> 00:46:18.510 Jessie Sams: So that then brings me to 455 00:46:21.420 --> 00:46:30.600 Jessie Sams: The last time I taught the class, I don't know, like, Do I dare try to create a another language for the class. 456 00:46:31.080 --> 00:46:32.370 Jessie Sams: When I'm already 457 00:46:35.370 --> 00:46:46.290 Jessie Sams: Working with you on so many languages. I'm probably shouldn't do it. But like, let me tell you it's darn tempting because I love creating languages with my students 458 00:46:47.730 --> 00:46:48.330 Jessie Sams: So, 459 00:46:48.660 --> 00:46:51.510 Jessie Sams: Con line number five is what, you know, though. 460 00:46:53.820 --> 00:46:57.270 Jessie Sams: And this one is VSO 461 00:46:58.830 --> 00:47:12.210 Jessie Sams: This one also is the first language that I actually created intending it to be a producer language for a family of con links. 462 00:47:13.950 --> 00:47:14.610 Jessie Sams: So like 463 00:47:15.720 --> 00:47:19.980 Jessie Sams: Because again, with the proto forms. I'm like, I want to know what the whole portal form would have been 464 00:47:22.890 --> 00:47:37.350 Jessie Sams: But, but I also because I couldn't have it be like an actual full on proto language just because I needed to go ahead and create grammatical features that wouldn't have been there and appropriately. So anyway, it's kind of a mess, but 465 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.850 Jessie Sams: That was my goal was, I had specific goals for how it would evolve. 466 00:47:43.980 --> 00:47:50.940 Jessie Sams: Also my big linguistic experiment for this one is that this language has no adjectives or adverbs. 467 00:47:53.010 --> 00:47:55.050 Jessie Sams: And so I wanted to play around with that. 468 00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:57.120 Jessie Sams: And 469 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:03.540 Jessie Sams: This is also meant to be part of a story. I like to create stories. 470 00:48:06.870 --> 00:48:15.480 Jessie Sams: And so like every introductions every language. I have is, like, this big. Introduction to who the speakers are. And so, yes, this one. 471 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:26.310 Jessie Sams: My introduction. So I was reading one day why I don't know, but I was reading this book called What if the earth had two moons. 472 00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:29.250 Jessie Sams: And it's a thought experiment. 473 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:46.080 Jessie Sams: By Neil F Coleman's it's a thought experiment about what the consequences of Earth capturing a second large mass moon would be. And so he talks about a lot of possibilities, including like drastic high tides fewer possibilities of coastal living without engineering planning. 474 00:48:47.310 --> 00:48:58.290 Jessie Sams: Brighter nights, potentially, resulting in different camouflage systems for prey and more intelligent nocturnal predators that rely on other senses like smell sound and heat detection. 475 00:48:59.250 --> 00:49:05.430 Jessie Sams: More meteoric showers and potentially more meteor impacts more solar eclipses. 476 00:49:06.300 --> 00:49:14.340 Jessie Sams: And a more complex calendar with full and partial months, I will not talk about how long I spent on trying to figure out what to moon calendar. 477 00:49:15.330 --> 00:49:33.330 Jessie Sams: Would look like there was a lot of research going on. He further states that the new moon might have volcanic activity, just because of the pool from both moons as well visible from Earth. And that would be like a potential source of inspiration from mythical lore. And so I was like 478 00:49:34.410 --> 00:49:38.970 Jessie Sams: That's my world right there. It's earth but future earth after capturing a second moon. 479 00:49:41.010 --> 00:49:48.630 Jessie Sams: And now this new earth, mind you, has stabilized since the appearance of the second moon human societies have redeveloped for a while it was mass chaos. 480 00:49:50.040 --> 00:49:59.400 Jessie Sams: And they appeared around the globe, but now they face a lot more competition for land and living space from more advanced predators and things like that. So, like, it's 481 00:50:00.180 --> 00:50:09.450 Jessie Sams: The New Earth is less viable land for living because the coastal regions all get flooded all the time because of the stronger tide. So it's like a lot of the coastal areas, just 482 00:50:10.290 --> 00:50:21.870 Jessie Sams: Are underwater. Now I'm also the new moon also caused a period of intense tsunamis and earthquakes. So it actually changed a lot of the landscape and livable area anyway. 483 00:50:23.490 --> 00:50:43.290 Jessie Sams: And so these new civilizations are much smaller than anything we would think of as like a big place. And in fact, the majority of human civilizations on this new earth really like a big civilization would be like in the the low thousands like 3000 would be a big civilization. 484 00:50:44.670 --> 00:50:48.780 Jessie Sams: But most of them are smaller groups of like 300 400, something like that. 485 00:50:50.310 --> 00:51:00.450 Jessie Sams: Um, so, humans are struggling because the hardiest who are surviving must also combat both nature and human inclination to dominate the land and other available resources. 486 00:51:00.930 --> 00:51:06.630 Jessie Sams: And so when they do come in contact with each other battles frequently breakout resulting in more depth. Just one thing 487 00:51:08.550 --> 00:51:18.270 Jessie Sams: And the people that I created specifically here the piano. So the language is working on it though. The people are working piano 488 00:51:20.040 --> 00:51:24.480 Jessie Sams: They have settled in old Earth's Western Europe in like a hilltop city. 489 00:51:25.530 --> 00:51:40.620 Jessie Sams: And they have technologies, kind of like what we would associate with more classical Civilization, like, you know, more stone based they have ships made for fishing or food gathering, but like you got to be really brave to go out on the sea, because remember water with two moons. 490 00:51:42.450 --> 00:51:44.040 Jessie Sams: It said it's a trip. 491 00:51:45.540 --> 00:51:57.120 Jessie Sams: And in low tides. They, they live nearly a mile from the nearest coast, but in the highest tides. The water actually comes and fills up aqua ducks within their city so like there's a big area there. 492 00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:20.940 Jessie Sams: Mainly agrarian living off the land stockpile food, etc, etc. But everybody all hands on deck for survival and so their word for good is you them, which literally translates as useful and the word for bad is near home which like literally translates as useless. 493 00:52:21.540 --> 00:52:25.140 David J. Peterson: This is basically exactly the same thing as death, Rocky. Did you know that 494 00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:27.870 Jessie Sams: No I did not. Yeah. 495 00:52:29.070 --> 00:52:31.350 Jessie Sams: I told you I haven't watched Game of Thrones. Right. 496 00:52:32.220 --> 00:52:34.170 David J. Peterson: Well, they don't really go over that. 497 00:52:35.040 --> 00:52:35.850 Jessie Sams: Okay, okay. 498 00:52:37.740 --> 00:52:39.570 Jessie Sams: But I still have not watched Game of 499 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:41.790 Jessie Sams: I'm sorry. 500 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:54.780 David J. Peterson: I'm trying to imagine like you know Season two Episode seven like know the death rocky word for good is actually a cognitive or say big as the words for useful. You see, so 501 00:52:55.950 --> 00:52:56.790 Jessie Sams: It's great. 502 00:52:57.600 --> 00:52:59.340 David J. Peterson: do that a lot. Sorry, you go 503 00:52:59.370 --> 00:53:11.100 Jessie Sams: So yeah, in case anybody's wondering why I tried watching Game of Thrones, but I personally cannot watch a lot of killing on screen. 504 00:53:13.050 --> 00:53:21.900 Jessie Sams: And so I had to stop because my hands were covering my eyes so much and they were speaking in other languages. And it turns out, you'd have to look at subtitles to know what's being said 505 00:53:22.590 --> 00:53:24.240 David J. Peterson: We're just learning the language. Come on. 506 00:53:26.310 --> 00:53:27.510 Jessie Sams: You're right, you're right. 507 00:53:27.660 --> 00:53:28.740 David J. Peterson: Calling me up. So 508 00:53:28.740 --> 00:53:30.960 Jessie Sams: I'm giving you two sentences for that. 509 00:53:32.040 --> 00:53:32.340 David J. Peterson: Okay. 510 00:53:34.470 --> 00:53:36.330 Jessie Sams: Go back to back, though, so it's good. 511 00:53:38.310 --> 00:53:38.610 David J. Peterson: Oh, 512 00:53:39.210 --> 00:53:39.960 Jessie Sams: Oh, second 513 00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:41.970 Jessie Sams: secondary stress is marked 514 00:53:42.660 --> 00:53:46.080 David J. Peterson: Oh, interesting strategy for secondary stress. 515 00:53:47.970 --> 00:53:54.150 David J. Peterson: Okay. And that's, again, very strict IPA. So that's the trail. 516 00:53:55.110 --> 00:53:56.490 Jessie Sams: You feel are true, yes. 517 00:53:56.670 --> 00:53:57.180 David J. Peterson: Mm hmm. 518 00:53:58.500 --> 00:53:59.970 David J. Peterson: OK. OK. 519 00:54:01.170 --> 00:54:06.000 Jessie Sams: And I even put periods at the end so you know where this first sentence. It's very the first sentence is obviously much shorter 520 00:54:11.430 --> 00:54:12.150 Jessie Sams: And for everyone. 521 00:54:12.720 --> 00:54:15.300 Jessie Sams: I just want you know David staring at it. He'll get there. 522 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:17.280 David J. Peterson: Here we go. 523 00:54:19.560 --> 00:54:20.340 David J. Peterson: More walk la 524 00:54:21.450 --> 00:54:22.350 David J. Peterson: La right 525 00:54:25.590 --> 00:54:30.600 David J. Peterson: Now, now, it wasn't the best ball walk lead so walk in. 526 00:54:31.680 --> 00:54:32.370 David J. Peterson: Faith. 527 00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:34.680 Jessie Sams: Yeah, there was a better bell 528 00:54:36.240 --> 00:54:47.370 David J. Peterson: Fight any way you can swap Z to move way union only now exceeded days, who adds a 529 00:54:49.710 --> 00:54:59.460 Jessie Sams: Wonderful and you just said a tree grows in a field. She believes that she herself possesses strength because of this her branches or near the sky goddess. 530 00:55:00.180 --> 00:55:00.930 Nice. 531 00:55:03.450 --> 00:55:05.580 Jessie Sams: Start of a fable. I like to read the most 532 00:55:06.570 --> 00:55:08.460 David J. Peterson: Consistent five and I am here for 533 00:55:10.530 --> 00:55:15.270 Jessie Sams: You. I have my certain taste. So one of the things that, like, 534 00:55:17.490 --> 00:55:21.630 Jessie Sams: That makes me laugh most about this language in terms of what I like built into it because 535 00:55:22.470 --> 00:55:31.500 Jessie Sams: The society right like they're really concerned just about their own survival. And so, in thinking about, like, if you're super concerned about making sure that your community can survive. 536 00:55:32.250 --> 00:55:52.410 Jessie Sams: They definitely treat finding and keeping mates very differently. And so, like, it's really bizarre for one for to have monogamous relationships because the whole goal is like you'll populate with like the best people. We can so that way. Very, very much like survival of the fittest. 537 00:55:52.830 --> 00:55:53.160 Very 538 00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.430 Jessie Sams: But like that also means that there's 539 00:56:00.810 --> 00:56:13.950 Jessie Sams: There's a lot of siblings or half siblings floating around. Right. And so I created a way that's like based on their word for sibling that essentially the way you hit on someone is to ask are you my sibling. 540 00:56:14.670 --> 00:56:23.610 Jessie Sams: And like, if they're if they're not interested. The answer is to essentially say a phrase that would translate as probably so like 541 00:56:24.600 --> 00:56:34.020 Jessie Sams: Go on. Or if you're interested, the follow up question is, who are your parents. And so then you would compare parent names. 542 00:56:38.010 --> 00:56:43.680 Jessie Sams: But that just kind of cracked me up the way I kind of hold dialogue ready 543 00:56:44.970 --> 00:56:47.970 Jessie Sams: So that is worked, you know, 544 00:56:49.290 --> 00:56:49.800 David J. Peterson: Yeah. 545 00:56:50.370 --> 00:56:54.360 Jessie Sams: And that is language. Number five. By the way, the entire fable. 546 00:56:55.830 --> 00:56:56.730 Jessie Sams: This tree. 547 00:56:57.960 --> 00:56:58.380 Jessie Sams: And 548 00:57:00.990 --> 00:57:02.490 Jessie Sams: Because we have some minutes left. 549 00:57:04.860 --> 00:57:06.330 Jessie Sams: I actually like this fable, what 550 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:08.700 Jessie Sams: I like it when I delight myself. 551 00:57:10.020 --> 00:57:10.770 David J. Peterson: With my own 552 00:57:12.600 --> 00:57:21.570 Jessie Sams: Okay, so she's angry because she thinks she's amazing. She's very strong because her branches so tall, she's so close to the sky goddesses in the plural. There are three 553 00:57:23.190 --> 00:57:31.320 Jessie Sams: But she is forced to sway every time the wind blows in that just really makes her angry. And so the taller. The tree grows, the more it moves in the wind. 554 00:57:31.860 --> 00:57:41.880 Jessie Sams: And because of the movement, the tree feels she is weak. So the tree tries to tell the wind. You know, like, Hey, I'm stronger than you. You can't be seen. Why are you annoying me go away. 555 00:57:42.450 --> 00:57:50.940 Jessie Sams: And the wind is all like, I can't stop blowing, you should ask the Goddesses, to give you more strength. And so then the tree goes to each goddess and turn, because again, there's three 556 00:57:52.320 --> 00:58:05.700 Jessie Sams: Need Sue says no, that's one goddess. So then the tree asked tofu, but the keto was like not even listening, so that one's out. So then the tree asked cleave when does the lady of the sky and 557 00:58:05.910 --> 00:58:08.370 Jessie Sams: Play. When does like, Are you sure this is what you want. 558 00:58:08.940 --> 00:58:15.750 Jessie Sams: And the tree is like, yes, it is my only desire. So Cliff window warrants Warren's okay I'm gonna give you what you want. 559 00:58:16.470 --> 00:58:25.320 Jessie Sams: And so the branches become stronger and harder the tree enjoys her strength. The wind blows in the field. The tree laughs because she thinks she's too strong to be hurt by the wind. 560 00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:36.870 Jessie Sams: And then the wind blows stronger and the trees branches snap off and fly away and the tree Christ. How am I breaking in live when the answers when you cannot move, you must break 561 00:58:39.120 --> 00:58:39.510 David J. Peterson: Okay. 562 00:58:40.650 --> 00:58:41.490 David J. Peterson: That is really good. 563 00:58:42.930 --> 00:58:45.750 David J. Peterson: And you have a lot of work and all of us. 564 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:47.160 Yes. 565 00:58:48.870 --> 00:58:49.440 Jessie Sams: Yes. 566 00:58:50.730 --> 00:58:51.540 David J. Peterson: That's wonderful. 567 00:58:52.830 --> 00:58:57.690 Jessie Sams: So those are five of my languages. 568 00:58:59.160 --> 00:59:01.710 David J. Peterson: And I love them all. That's amazing. Wow. 569 00:59:02.790 --> 00:59:06.150 David J. Peterson: Thank you for that, because especially I didn't know much about the later ones. 570 00:59:07.500 --> 00:59:09.270 Jessie Sams: Now because they all just live 571 00:59:10.710 --> 00:59:11.610 Jessie Sams: In documents. 572 00:59:13.500 --> 00:59:17.880 David J. Peterson: That are waiting to be put into PDFs and sent to me to put up on the other. Well, 573 00:59:17.940 --> 00:59:22.410 Jessie Sams: Actually, I should give you the, the good news. The one is really, really. 574 00:59:22.410 --> 00:59:23.160 David J. Peterson: You should 575 00:59:23.490 --> 00:59:26.820 Jessie Sams: Brief, but the walked in auto is I should send that one. 576 00:59:27.270 --> 00:59:29.700 David J. Peterson: If it's at least a single page. That'll do it. 577 00:59:31.080 --> 00:59:33.720 Jessie Sams: Oh, it may be like 60 578 00:59:34.770 --> 00:59:35.550 David J. Peterson: Hmm. 579 00:59:36.930 --> 00:59:37.410 David J. Peterson: See 580 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:39.180 Jessie Sams: It's got a few pages. 581 00:59:40.410 --> 00:59:43.620 Jessie Sams: Um, okay, so look on feeling where eventually 582 00:59:44.160 --> 00:59:44.370 Went 583 00:59:45.450 --> 00:59:48.630 David J. Peterson: There we go. Now I can fill in some of those months. 584 00:59:50.670 --> 00:59:53.850 Jessie Sams: But, uh, but yeah, so that's wanted to 585 00:59:56.040 --> 00:59:58.830 Jessie Sams: Introduce you to those languages. And then we have an 586 01:00:00.660 --> 01:00:02.280 Jessie Sams: Episode eight in a wrap. 587 01:00:02.970 --> 01:00:07.050 David J. Peterson: That's right. I mean, I call it to afford whatever 588 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.380 Jessie Sams: You know, whatever episode. It is 589 01:00:11.910 --> 01:00:12.480 Jessie Sams: Did you have any 590 01:00:13.620 --> 01:00:19.470 David J. Peterson: No, that was wonderful. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. That was so cool. 591 01:00:20.670 --> 01:00:26.190 David J. Peterson: Wow, man. Yeah, you put on a lot more work into these languages that I put into my earlier ones. 592 01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:28.350 David J. Peterson: I mean, 593 01:00:28.410 --> 01:00:29.520 Jessie Sams: I don't know about that. 594 01:00:31.140 --> 01:00:34.890 David J. Peterson: Only thing that probably comes closest common Cali and that's just one 595 01:00:36.390 --> 01:00:40.410 David J. Peterson: Or my first language was was just terrible and embarrassing. Everybody knows about that. 596 01:00:43.080 --> 01:00:44.610 Jessie Sams: Because you talk about it all the time. 597 01:00:45.420 --> 01:00:54.210 David J. Peterson: I know what do I do that just embarrassing. I don't know. I think it's because I want to be sure people know that I'm not, like, you know, some sort of a 598 01:00:55.980 --> 01:00:58.680 David J. Peterson: Statue or something, I don't know, like, you know what I mean. 599 01:00:59.490 --> 01:01:01.260 Jessie Sams: You're, you're no money. 600 01:01:02.490 --> 01:01:07.650 David J. Peterson: No, I'm like people. People need to know what kind of trash, I am you know 601 01:01:13.140 --> 01:01:14.010 Jessie Sams: No, I don't. 602 01:01:17.910 --> 01:01:26.400 David J. Peterson: Know, I mean, it's like you know that's that's how you. That's how you build first, first you lay down the trash. It's a good foundation and then you build on the truck. 603 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.060 Jessie Sams: You learn from the first one. 604 01:01:33.450 --> 01:01:33.990 Okay. 605 01:01:35.430 --> 01:01:36.090 Jessie Sams: Move on. 606 01:01:38.010 --> 01:01:42.420 David J. Peterson: You put a frame around it and keep showing it to everybody. See, see. 607 01:01:44.580 --> 01:01:47.100 Jessie Sams: It is good, though, because I think 608 01:01:48.540 --> 01:02:02.220 Jessie Sams: In every community. I think that this is a problem, but I see it a lot in common linking communities is that this feeling of whether it's imposter syndrome or just all out like 609 01:02:03.270 --> 01:02:12.300 Jessie Sams: comparing yourself to somebody who's been doing it a lot longer. I definitely see a lot of comments that show that it's like, oh, I mean, it's not that good. But 610 01:02:13.710 --> 01:02:30.180 Jessie Sams: And that's one thing that I i hate hearing that from other people. So like if I ever hear my students say that I actually stopped them. And I'm like, No, there is no like that. Don't say it's not that good. You're working with what you got, let's let's work with, let's work with this. 611 01:02:31.470 --> 01:02:41.940 Jessie Sams: And so that, to me, I think is important that people get out there like, hey, like my first attempt wasn't the best or like I look back and I wish I had done this differently. 612 01:02:43.170 --> 01:02:47.190 Jessie Sams: I think that's really good for people to just be open about and be honest because 613 01:02:48.660 --> 01:02:52.920 Jessie Sams: It does bother me whenever especially beginning con lingers get really down on themselves. 614 01:02:54.990 --> 01:03:01.050 Jessie Sams: I don't know. It just makes me want to send a con Lincoln KG to them and say, not just keep working. 615 01:03:02.340 --> 01:03:05.910 Jessie Sams: You'll get what you want. And like your first one is never the best anyway so 616 01:03:06.180 --> 01:03:13.410 David J. Peterson: Yeah, and like Malmo when I started out. If I had known know it's been going to catch up so that you know 617 01:03:14.010 --> 01:03:24.870 David J. Peterson: I I needed that period of, you know, creating this terrible language. And again, that not only was it the best language in the world, but that I was the best person in the world, because that's what I truly believe 618 01:03:26.130 --> 01:03:27.840 David J. Peterson: Anything I did was just perfect. 619 01:03:29.970 --> 01:03:30.900 Jessie Sams: Obviously, 620 01:03:31.620 --> 01:03:35.220 David J. Peterson: Yeah, like that's that's what I've been saying basically obviously 621 01:03:36.570 --> 01:03:37.260 David J. Peterson: You are. Yeah. 622 01:03:37.710 --> 01:03:38.490 Jessie Sams: David J. Peterson. 623 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:44.760 David J. Peterson: And I, and I had been since I created my signature in seventh grade. 624 01:03:45.720 --> 01:03:48.180 Jessie Sams: Which I have to say is really a nice signature. 625 01:03:48.720 --> 01:03:49.650 It's very artistic 626 01:03:50.700 --> 01:03:52.440 David J. Peterson: Thank you. I put a lot of work into it. 627 01:03:55.200 --> 01:03:57.180 Jessie Sams: Well, since seventh grade. That is impressive. 628 01:03:58.470 --> 01:04:04.980 Jessie Sams: So are there any final words that you want to say to our dear listeners. 629 01:04:08.370 --> 01:04:10.020 David J. Peterson: I don't know. I can never think of anything. 630 01:04:11.250 --> 01:04:16.380 David J. Peterson: But, and it's like the only word I always remember from your languages is 631 01:04:26.850 --> 01:04:27.570 Jessie Sams: Interesting. 632 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:31.140 David J. Peterson: I don't know, it always it always stuck out to me. 633 01:04:35.970 --> 01:04:36.540 Jessie Sams: Nice. 634 01:04:37.830 --> 01:04:45.360 Jessie Sams: Okay, well, then in that case, I'll end it on saying thank you for listening and stay grammar. 635 01:04:45.450 --> 01:04:46.950 David J. Peterson: And happy going 636 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:48.090 The grammar.